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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:54 AM
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Can I have a word with all of our hispanic DUers for a moment please?
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 01:54 AM by Melodybe
Oh my god, white Americans can be so racist, how do you deal with it?

All of the folks that assume that Chavez is a evil murdering dictator just cause he is a South American leader is driving me nuts. As if hispanic people are only capable of producing criminals, man it makes me mad!

Ok, I just wanted to get that off my chest.

Love and peace, ya'll
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:58 AM
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1. I think the Bushites backing the anti-Chavez movement in Venezuela
is classist. Racist in that the rich are more blond than the non rich in venezuela. But classism is at its heart & Oil. Chavez wanting 30% of oil profits in order to fix some bad distribution of wealth.



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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:00 AM
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3. i know but the resistance to Chavez in American democrats
seems to come from a manufactured distrust of Latin America.

It makes me mad because a majority of the truly horrible things (like genocide) are done with the help of the USA.

It's disgusting.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:05 AM
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5. I didn't notice any racism. People are maybe more concerned with
the issues at home than with Chavez problems. At least they have an honest leader.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:07 AM
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6. I meant in the non DU world.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:59 AM
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2. Some "white Americans" can be racist. I'm not.
...I have been declared an honorary Latina. :)
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:00 AM
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4. Nice, I'm not like that either
I love everyone except fascist, bigoted corporatists.

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:11 AM
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7. Mmm nobody said that
and I personally said...there have been a lot of 'saviours' touted in my lifetime. From every country on earth.

Every last one of them turned out to be a disaster.

'put not your faith in princes'... or messanic political leaders.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:13 AM
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9. My parents are from Sevilla - am I Hispanic? Maybe a Gachupin?
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 02:16 AM by wake.up.america
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:38 AM
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18. Sure you're Hispanic
You're also white. I have Spanish family members and they consider themselves both. White as in Caucasian and European and Hispanic as in hailing from Hispania (Spain).
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:14 AM
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10. I'll put my faith in anyone I like
and I like Chavez, so stop bashing him in my threads please.

The man does deserve a little praise.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:15 AM
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12. Maybe
maybe not.

Like I said, hold the hero worship.

Of anybody
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:20 AM
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13. God damn it dude, I am not a moron!
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 02:33 AM by Melodybe
I have lived long enough to be burned by plenty of political people, hello, majority of elected democratic officals.

But unlike you, I can still see that their are still good people out there.

Maybe there would be more people that speak truth to power, if people like you didn't already assume the worst.

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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:12 AM
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8. In South America
if you have Spanish blood your a white American. Just saying!

:shrug:
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:15 AM
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11. I don't know, I am part Chickasaw Indian but I am blond with blue eyes
Be what you feel in your heart.
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:23 AM
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14. I hope we can all
connect with the human part of our heart. Like Chavez!

:hippie:
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NiteOwll Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:25 AM
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15. I never got the impression that
being hispanic had as much to do with it, as they seem hate anyone who doesn't bow to the United States. Maybe I'm just not seeing it...
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:34 AM
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17. That is also true but America has been brainwashed to hate people
like Che Guevara, we are not allowed to respect revolutionaries in our own time.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:28 AM
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16. I find it very odd that most of those...
... "evil murdering dictators" were aided and abetted by generation after generation of United States leaders. It was a bit of a shock for me to find, a while back, a quote from FDR on Anastacio Somoza's father (who held power in Nicaragua for many years): "He's a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch."

Most of these bastards didn't come to power on their own--they arrived with our help and the militaries that kept them in power were often trained at our very own School of the Americas. Pinochet, Somoza, Marco Pdrez Jimenez, Peron, Roberto D'Aubission, Juan Melgar Castro, and a long string of others....

Doesn't make much sense to me to lump Chavez in with that lot. He may not turn out to be the next incarnation of Simon Bolivar. Then again, he may (to the great chagrin of many, many of the wealthy here and in Venezuela).

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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:38 AM
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19. I actually think that Chavez will be the next MLK
Considering my track record of loving Jon Stewart, Howard Dean, and George Clooney and on and on shows that I can pick'um.

If you disagree with Clooney being thrown in there, by this time next month you'll understand.

His new movie Good Night, and Good Luck is going to change the world.

Here is the trailer:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/goodnightandgoodluck.html
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:41 AM
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20. I like him so far
He seems to be a really great leader for Venezuela. I especially like how he's giving back land to the indigenous people of his country instead of screwing them like some of the other Latin American countries..
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