What is the current Gulf Coast death toll????

[tedzbear]

I can't find any mention of it in the NYT or CNN. Have they stopped counting?

[riverwalker]

1. No updates since friday

all I can find is about 800.

[madokie]

2. Apparently days ago, it appears "they" think we'll revolt or something.

I'm close to it now already, won't take much to set me off. And you know what I think, there are many like me.

[Merlot]

3. Death toll? What death toll? What do you mean Gulf Coast?

Sorry, but the real number is one we'll never hear.

[unrepuke]

4. NBC last night had it at 800 plus, I think just for N.O. - but, of course,

they are using "Fuzzy Math" to count.

[babylonsister]

5. Here's a good site but it hasn't been updated since Friday:

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09_16.html#080196

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. What about a list of the missing

On 9-11 all we heard about was the missing and their was a master list that NYC kept that they would remove the names from when someones body was recovered or if they turned up alive.

Where's the master list of NOLA's missing?

[babylonsister]

8. Do you think that info has even been collected yet?

I don't have it; I'm dancing as fast as I can with the info I can find!

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. There are lists all over the place

but nothing that I can find that is of much use and nothing that gives a total number.

The Red Cross list is about the best one so far, and appears to be 1000's of names.

[intheflow]

10. The first day the Red Cross list went up, it had 93,000 names.

Last week I volunteered for the Houston Red Cross and spent a couple days on the computer mostly either signing people up on the list or helping people find loved ones.

I searched not only the Red Cross list, but also the 13 sites listed on the FEMA site.

I helped maybe 10 or 15 families. I only found one person, an elderly aunt who had been evacuated from a NO nursing home. I didn't find her on the Red Cross lsit, but on a list about evacuees from Louisiana nursing homes.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. So no one is maintaining a master list?

and a database that everyone can access on the Internet?

It seems that trying to track down the missing must be very difficult with no one central database?

[intheflow]

14. No one is maintaining a master list to the best of my knowledge.

The closest thing to it is Yahoo's missing people search engine, which does a kind of google search of the missing people databases.

But is any one agency collecting all the names from all the databases and putting them into one database? No. I think the priority up to this time--for relief agencies in particularly--has been to get immediate aid/relief to the people right in front of them. The unknown and missing are necessarily a secondary priority, as harsh as that sounds to people who have not been willing or able to experience the areas with the most evacuees firsthand.

That being said, if you want to start a master database, I know there are thousands of people who would be very grateful for the resource! :)

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. There seems to be four or five already

but none of them are 'official' lists.

That is why you need the resource and power of the Federal Government to administer this sort of thing. They had good lists of the missing within days of 9-11, they only reason why we don't have one for this disaster is because BushCo doesn't care and doesn't want to bother unless they are forced.

[intheflow]

18. I believe this is true.

Our government could have a master list by now, for sure. I was talking about the relief agencies (Red Cross, churches, etc.) being overwhelmed by Katrina. I don't consider FEMA a relief agency. I guess I just assumed it was a given that the administration's done what they could to thwart evacuation, recovery, displacements.

Now if we could get our government to actually care about all human life (not just fetuses), tax (fund) to preserve human life, and distribute the taxes back among the most needy in an organized and timely fashion, then I would consider FEMA a relief agency. But then I'd be living in Canada, I guess--or at least in my vision of the American Dream.

[elehhhhna]

16. Diebold will reanimate them as reep voters on '06. They have a list

--if not now, then by 06.

[intheflow]

20. OMG, I never thought of that.

Thanks for giving me ANOTHER reason to march in DC next weekend!

[elehhhhna]

23. hey, just thinking like a scorpio (karl is a scorp)

[spinbaby]

21. Good link, thanks

A woman I was looking for posted on a list I didn't check and she's okay.

:grouphug:

It's enough to make you crazy having all these different lists.

[intheflow]

22. I'm glad you were able to find your friend.

:hug:

[pretzel4gore]

6. last heard 140 thousand missing ...

spread that numeral around hahaha...bush shit hisself if he hears that (nevermind the scope of the tragedy!)
btw it's CNNT (cable news network traitors) not cnn

[elehhhhna]

24. nah that was 140k just absent from the NO police force. lol.

[hedgehog]

11. The trouble with a widespread disaster is that we may never know.

The other problem is all the myths that will develop. I'd bet the crime rate was actually down during and after the storm, but we'll be hearing more and more about the vicious criminals.

[bvar22]

12. One thing for sure,

The Republican Party and their "Doctrine of Compassionate Conservatism" has now killed MORE Americans than Al-Qaeda!!!

Compassionate Conservatism, or "shrinking the Federal Government until it is small enough to drown in the bathtub" needs to be thrown on the trash heap of BAD ideas!!!!!





Republican GREED has now KILLED more Americans than Al Qaeda!

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[elehhhhna]

17. 20 here, 30 there-- next thing you know the official toll is 8.

[dogday]

19. We won't know the truth, just like Charley

they did not tell us how many died in that storm either. A lot of elderly people who could not get out of their trailers died when Charley took a turn out of nowhere and hit.

[pretzel4gore]

25. or the tsunami

over 4000 americans were lost in se asia, but the pigmedia never mentioned it