izzybeans
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Sun Sep-18-05 11:31 AM
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The Swift Boating of Aaron Broussard? |
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http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/wuz/2005/09/another_katrina_2.htmlI'm looking for sources to debunk this shit. The above blog provides no actual quotations, so I'm looking for the real thing...should anyone have anything handy. Thanks in advance.
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Sun Sep-18-05 11:44 AM
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1. I've found a few things. Wikipedia, etc. Is there |
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something a bit more trustworthy?
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Sun Sep-18-05 11:57 AM
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2. All I've got are these... |
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they don't help debunk, unfortunately. transcript of his appearance on MTP: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9179790/Follow-up article on MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9219975/
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Sun Sep-18-05 12:02 PM
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3. This guy is running on empty |
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If he screwed up the story re the timeline, it's more likely because he's falling apart from fatigue. Whether it's a purely political act is anybody's guess, but the underlying story is perfectly true: FEMA looks like a monkey trying to f*ck a football. They have become as big a disaster as the hurricane itself. Like the Bush administration in general, FEMA's incompetence and arrogance defy belief.
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Sun Sep-18-05 12:07 PM
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4. If you check out some of the stories at the orginal site, |
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you will see that some of them say it was Aaron Broussard's mother that was killed (in that emotional statement), but they can't even get that right. I think it was the timeline that AB got wrong, not the FACTS. Now, they will start saying the man's mother did not die, or committed suicide or something. The basic facts of what AB said are TRUE.
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Sun Sep-18-05 12:15 PM
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6. Right that's what I said, unfortunately none of that has been sufficient |
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for the idiots posting this stuff to disagree with it (at another site I frequent).
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Sun Sep-18-05 12:14 PM
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5. He is reading a lot into the NYT article |
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While the whole thing is a bit murky, the NYT article does not directly contradict Broussard in any way. It says that St. Bernard Parish officials said 32 people at St. Rita's drowned Monday. This could have been an error or misinterpretation; it sounds like officials didn't get to St. Rita's until later in the week, and they may have assumed the people there all died Monday. They may have also said something less specific which the paper edited down for punchiness. It isn't encouraging that they got the name of the parish wrong -- it's St. Bernard Parish, not St. Bernard's Parish. This is a very fundamental error (which I saw propagated a lot on Fox that Monday BTW) that shows the reporter was in a big hurry and did not do much fact-checking.
Ms. Rodrigue might also not be among the group of 32. She might have died later in a separate incident.
At this point I would have to say that it requires a selective reading of the articles to find contradictions with Broussard's account. And having seen Broussard's account, I find it extremely unlikely that he was making shit up out of a whole cloth just to make those fine heroes at FEMA look bad.
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Sun Sep-18-05 12:21 PM
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7. I'm wondering abotu the freeper values that make it important to them |
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whether that one woman died by drowning or not.
I mean, one would hope that there would be tears for anyone abandoned to rising waters, whehter or not it was a friend's mother.
And that's really the crux, isn't it, of the freeper dilemma--they really don't care, don't want to say they don't care, so they nibble around the edges by criticizing supposedly overblown statements.
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Sun Sep-18-05 04:02 PM
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8. Thanks everyone. I used the term swiftboating pretty carefully |
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Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 04:04 PM by izzybeans
Everyrightwing nut site I've read about this today has been speculation based upon holes in the story. The MO is to take some hard to confirm aspect of the story and spread doubt. Never mind the fact that it wasn't until Friday that there was a FED response of any substance.
I'd like to call it "the bottom rung" defense. In order for the base to remain properly in line, they rely in desperation on minute details that still no one has been able to make out (e.g. nobody nows when Rodrigue's mother died because they haven't found her, but the mSM speculates it could have been MOnday bc the storm came that day). Is there a typewriter here with that script, can we turn an awol president into a hero and a hero into a war criminal, can we once again turn an awol president into a hero and the local heroes into the fall guy?
Seeing as this thread has made it into the "cesspool" I no longer can see it any other way. The fact that this has become fodder for delusional and paranoid inbreds tells me a whole lot.
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Sun Sep-18-05 04:04 PM
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9. Everything their saying is based on assumptions |
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And not real facts. It's not even worth reading.
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Sun Sep-18-05 04:06 PM
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10. be careful w. aaron broussard |
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i tried to cool some of the enthusiasm for this dude previously
i believe this particular statement was sincere, altho he may have misunderstood the exact sequence of events in the woman's death after days w.out sleep in a disaster
as anyone would do
however there is no one w. clean hands who is from kenner, la politics
i would not embrace him as a DUer or a role model
a bad man can still be passionate & upset to see his town crushed
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Sun Sep-18-05 05:44 PM
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11. I don't care about him as a DUer so much as he |
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becoming the poster child for the "don't blame the federal government" crowd who have spent most of their putrid existence blaming the federal government.
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