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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:07 AM
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WOW! photo comparisons of Katrina and Rita

Katrina as a Tropical Storm


Tropical Storm Rita on Monday, September 19th

Unfortunately, they look eerily similar...
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:54 AM
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1. Don't all tropical storms look like that?
Like a little embryo about to be murdered by an evil abortion doctor?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:30 AM
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6. LOL!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:14 AM
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2. Anyone have figures for the relative wind speeds?
Yes, they look similar, but I'm under the impression that Rita is a lot less powerful. I truly hope so.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:37 AM
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9. Katrina wasn't much of a Hurricane at this point either.
It only made it to Cat 1 before hitting Florida.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:22 AM
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15. I don't much about Hurricanes
but just looking at it.. I'd say Rita looks more organized and together then Kat did in the early stages.

I have no idea how that plays out in the weather patterns.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:31 AM
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23. Those two photos do not do a good comparison because
one is a visible image and the other is infrared. Actually the storms, if both looked at in the same type image, are pretty much indistinguishable. Living where I do, I follow these things VERY, VERY closely. I just hope that conditions in the Gulf do not allow it to become as strong. Also, the path of Rita seems to be more to the south, so it is not taking an identical path.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:49 AM
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27. Unfortunately the conditions in the Gulf are just right for this storm.


Once it's past the Keys, there's nothing to stop it from developing. What's good about this storm is that it's moving fast. Katrina sat in the Gulf for days before hitting Louisiana and Mississippi. This storm is moving faster.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:16 AM
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3. rita is projected to spin up into a pretty powerful hurricane
and it looks now as if Texas is under the gun

subjectProdigal

www.nhc.noaa.gov
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:33 AM
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7. Is it heading towards Crawford TX? What will fundies say this time?
Is it heading towards Crawford TX? What will the nutcase fundamentalists like Falwell and Robertson and the others say this time? Will they have the intellectual courage to say god is punishing Texas's native idiot son Shrub Bush for the Katrina non-response, for the hundreds of children left behind, for the needless deaths due to Republican strangling of government?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:43 AM
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11. Crawford is way too far inland to be reached.
And thank heavens Texas is getting it instead of Louisiana again. We can take it.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:45 AM
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12. Yes, inland, but the storm per se can still hit it if not damage it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:54 AM
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13. It won't be much more than rain by the time it gets to Crawford.
One of the advantages of living in the middle of bum fuck nowhere. :P
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:01 AM
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29. Maybe it will spawn some tornado's
Would love to see the look on robertson's face if Bush*'s Crawford Pig Farm were to be leveled to the same degree as Biloxi MS.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:02 AM
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14. how come they never head towards DC?!
that's where they should be going to sow some great karma.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:33 AM
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19. The fundies will say it's because of Cindy
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:57 PM
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34. "God is punishing the Crawford Peace House"
That's what they'd say. There's always a gay, atheist, or liberal to attract the wrath of Yahweh; if need be, just blame the nation at large.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:40 AM
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10. I do believe in Global Warming. I do, I do, I do...
I do believe in Global Warming. I do, I do, I do...
I do believe in Global Warming. I do, I do, I do...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1805W5_sm2+gif/084708W_sm.gif
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:18 AM
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4. OMG!!!! Another giant fetus!!!!!
Or.... Is that Osama?

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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:31 AM
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17. It looks like a giant
white whale surfacing. Why does Moby Dick hate 'murika?
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:03 AM
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24. Silly, it doesn't look anything like a fetus.
It is clearly a large yellow blob of God's divine justice, descending on the liberals, gays and abortionists in Florida. What, you can't see it?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:20 AM
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5. How are wind speed and central pressure tied?
I'm wondering if there is a direct correlation and if central pressure predicts storm surge or wind speed or both. Or is it a fuction of so many variables including tide that it can't be predicted?
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:34 AM
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8. They are very closely linked.
Storm surge does have some more variables in it.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:22 AM
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16. The lower the pressure..........
the more storm surge. Think of it a a giant low pressure system inside the hurricane itself. Inside the eye the lower barometric pressure allows a huge wall of water to, in a sense suck upward. That wall is then washed ashore on landfall. Tide has an effect on it, but the slope of the shoreline before landfall makes an even bigger difference. If the water is relatively shallow all the way up to land, a much larger strom surge will occur. I think Katrina had a bp of about 928 millibars when it hit. It had been as low as about 904 at one time. In contrast, the Galveston storm that devastated the Texas Coast had a bp of 888 millibars. That is the hand of god itself.
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sypher Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:32 AM
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18. Let's "pray"
it hits Crawford.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:38 AM
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20. Welcome to DU. And a geography lesson.
By the time a hurricane gets that far inland, it would be a tropical storm, meaning lots of rain, some wind and maybe flash-flooding, but that's it. Coastal, Crawford is not. Plus, we don't want the Peace House damaged, do we?
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sypher Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:26 AM
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22. Thanks and
just being a little sarcastic.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:39 AM
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26. Hi sypher!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:45 AM
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21. Here's the latest satellite imagery.


Looks like an eye is starting to come together.



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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:05 AM
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25. It looks like the spin on Rita is less
since it looks less curled.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:55 AM
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28. they all look like that
by definition a tropical cyclone will look like a cyclone

next question
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:11 AM
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30. Actually, not.
Some have convection and outflow all around, some do not. Some are large, some smaller. Some spin off tornadoes, some do not. Some move fast, some move slow. Some have eyes, some do not. Some hurricanes start slow and reach a crescendo without individual squalls, some throw squall after squall at you with breaks of relative calm between. It would take a very good expert to tell these two storms apart as they are in nearly identical locations, and have the same "look."

If you develop a practice of daily watching of the satellite loops, you will see that each storm has its own look and characteristics from beginning to end and no two are identical, but, yes, they all are cyclones.
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madderthanhell Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:21 PM
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31. I know you got this image from NASA, but it is incorrect.
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 12:24 PM by madderthanhell
nm
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:29 PM
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32. Katrina intensified within the gulf, but it did start in the atlantic
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 12:30 PM by SoCalDem
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aerZoAEeEv_w&refer=us


Tropical Storm Katrina Approaches Florida; May Become Hurricane
Aug. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Tropical Storm Katrina maintained its track toward the Florida coast with maximum sustained winds of 50 mph (80 kph) and higher gusts which are expected to strengthen to hurricane force later today.

Katrina's center was located about 35 miles (56 kilometers) north-northeast of Freeport, Bahamas, and 110 miles east of the southeastern Florida coast at 2 a.m. Miami time, according to an advisory from the National Hurricane Center. Katrina is moving west at about 9 mph (15 kph) and is expected to continue on this path for the next 24 hours.

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Hurricane Katrina Path may hit the Florida Panhandle

August 25th 2005

http://www.bestsyndication.com/2005/Dan-WILSON/Current-Affairs/08/082505-Hurricane-Katrina-Florida-Panhandle.htm

Projected path of Katrina


For a more current Story click here.

Hurricane Katrina hit the coast of Florida with wind gusts of 92 mph centering just south of Fort Lauderdale. The storm slowed and slightly weakened after hitting land dumping 12 inches of rain. It is expected to re-strengthen in the Gulf of Mexico’s warm water and could swing back up hitting the Florida Panhandle. This area was hit in July by Hurricane Dennis and last September by Hurricane Ivan.

"This is going to be a long night for Miami-Dade and Broward counties," hurricane centre director Max Mayfield told CNN. There are an estimated 2 million people without power at this time.


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:43 PM
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33. VERY different. Katrina is white. Rita mostly orange with red and yellow
This is going to suck.

Not only will they be hit with a hurricane, but everything will be wet and orange afterward.
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