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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:22 AM
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World NUT Daily: "The Coming Conservative Collapse"
I guess there's not enough TRUE conservatives to suit this guy.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46398

The turn of the century was supposed to be the triumph of the conservatives. From the dark era of the Democrat-dominated '60s and '70s, conservatives began their protracted march toward electoral power, culminating finally in the long-awaited capture of all three branches of the federal government. The Reagan Revolution was finally to be realized in earnest!

But just as most Republican Supreme Court nominees have turned out to be treacherous supporters of big government – activist liberals in disguise – their legislative- and executive-branch colleagues likewise revealed themselves to be every bit as unfaithful to conservative principles of small government and individual freedom. As is all too often the case, conservative success carried within it the seeds of its own demise.

President Bush's recent speech on his administration's planned long-term response to Hurricane Katrina marked an interesting point in the continued devolution of American conservatism. Whereas his first five years had previously been a strange combination of strategic Wilsonian foreign policy and tactical Keynesian domestic policy, the president managed to make it abundantly clear that in domestic terms, his presidential guiding light is Lyndon Baines Johnson, not Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Real conservatives now understand they have been betrayed – badly – by this fraudulent man. Compassionate conservatism, as it turns out, is simply another name for Great Society liberalism, and not even the Texas swagger is original. Genuinely conservative Republicans are dismayed by the president's unveiling of his core liberalism and rightly fear for the future of a party which has likely seen its high-water mark already.

But nothing dissuades the Three Monkeys from screeching and howling their enthusiasm for their Dear Leader's every action. They have redefined conservatism to be the actions of one known as a conservative, so the individual is no longer defined by his ideology, the ideology is defined by the individual.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:29 AM
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1. Wake up Freepers! Dubya is really a secret agent for the liberals
and out to destroy everything Freeperland holds dear.
:rofl:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:30 AM
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2. Bulls**t!
"...Whereas his first five years had previously been a strange combination of strategic Wilsonian foreign policy and tactical Keynesian domestic policy,...

Yeah, right.....

like Bush ever read or understood any of that...like he really had a plan in the first place....

:puke:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:36 AM
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20. I see the WorldNut Reality-Warp Machine (tm) is powered-up and humming...
"...Whereas his first five years had previously been a strange combination of strategic Wilsonian foreign policy and tactical Keynesian domestic policy,...

For the rest of us that would read:

"...Whereas his first five years had been a consistent and astoundingly brazen program of lining the pockets or otherwise advancing the agenda of his primary supporters,...




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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:40 AM
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21. Isn't that like punching somebody in the stomach and saying
That you're a Machiavellian scholar?
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:30 AM
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3. Don't they understand that their dogmatic worship of Bush caused this?
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:52 AM by iconoclastic cat
Personal responsibility, anyone?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:32 AM
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7. See my No 5 nt
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:31 AM
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4. I don't know what to say.
I really don't. That was the screwiest, most delusional thing I've read in a long time.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:32 AM
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5. But the cult of personality was the hallmark of the neocons
What happens when the cult of personality picks the wrong person?

The conservatives knew that their agenda wasn't popular. They knew that they had to force it on America by electing a man who pretended to be something he wasn't. They too denied there was anything amiss in any of the policies in order to keep Bush strong so that the conservative nirvana would eventually be enacted. They knew Bush was a lying sack of shit. The conservatives just thought that Bush was lying to us.

Now they realize that Bush was lying to them, too. Bush doesn't see the cult of personality as a means to an end. He sees it as the end. His power is the final goal. So of course he is all in favor of a huge spending plan with no fiscal constraints. It increases his power. He was in favor of it in Iraq. He's in favor of in hurricane relief. He's in favor of it all going through FEMA, which, by the way, has no civil service rules protecting people who squeal, and gives employees a quarter MILLION dollars in descretionary spending on a debit card.

There's a reason why fascist and totalitarian governments fail. There isn't any means to select the right guy for a big job. Instead, the guy most anxious to win is precisely the wrong guy. A power mad, ignorant, craven bully.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:32 AM
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6. Well, I really wish they'd get around to it!
The only problem with a "conservative collapse," a cause I support, is that when the conservatives collapse they're gonna take the sane world with them.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:34 AM
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8. Wilsonian foreign policy? Bwahaha!
President League of Nations vs. President "I think John Bolton is what we need in the UN"? Again, bwahahaha!
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:36 AM
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9. for once i agree
WorldNutDaily.


but them and the Moonie Times have been quite critical lately.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:40 AM
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10. Love it! So many fundies here in Central CA read this "news" source
Many read it on the advice of their fundie pastors.

From the article:
Real conservatives now understand they have been betrayed – badly – by this fraudulent man. Compassionate conservatism, as it turns out, is simply another name for Great Society liberalism, and not even the Texas swagger is original. Genuinely conservative Republicans are dismayed by the president's unveiling of his core liberalism and rightly fear for the future of a party which has likely seen its high-water mark already.

ROFLMAO :rofl: :rofl: rofl:

Conservative = Liberalism

So, what better way to make sure the TRUE conservative politic is maintained and protected than to vote only for the liberal candidates as those are the ones who are really conservatives. :rofl:
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:41 AM
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11. Took em five years to notice the Punk is a total phoney?
Observant chaps, these fascists.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:47 AM
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12. Don't worry, fascist- they were only cheap words.
I'm getting sick of these idiots who pretend to care about fiscal responsibility, too. Guys like this weren't particularly bothered by the billions of disappearing tax dollars in Iraq. They don't mind the government handing huge sums of taxpayer money to Halliburton of Bechtel, or exported jobs, or the tipping of the tax system that actually stagnates the economy.

But any talk of aid to needy US citizens is 'a betrayal of conservativism'. Why is that?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:52 AM
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13. Medicare Bill didn't clue you guys in?
Farm Bill? Transportation Bill? No Child Left Behind? Discretionary spending at double the Clinton years? Treasury stuffed with IOUs? No? Nothing?

Wow. It takes a lot to get you guys' attention. Too late. Your beloved Dubya and Republican Congress have stolen the silverware, spent the grocery money, and are burning the furniture to toast marshmallows.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:56 AM
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14. You have to consider the silver lining that * has finally managed
to piss off a significant number of people on Both sides of the political scene.

Is there a "base" really left to this moran?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:57 AM
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15. They worked for and supported a fascist leader -
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 11:34 AM by Dhalgren
and that's what they got.

"They have redefined conservatism to be the actions of one known as a conservative, so the individual is no longer defined by his ideology, the ideology is defined by the individual."

That is the modus operandi of fascists. Hitler called his party the National Socialists. In actuality it was neither "nationalist" not "socialist" - it was whatever Hitler said it was. You follow the Leader, he doesn't follow anything. Bush himself came awfully close to confessing this - (paraphrase) "I am the President and I don't have to answer to anyone! Other folks, they have to answer to me, but I don't have to answer to anyone!"

You reap what you fucking sow...
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:03 AM
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17. and Mussolini and Franco and Pinochet
every one was backed by business interests.

Every one build a centralized tyranny to destroy their opposition.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:02 AM
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16. Your free enterprise utopia requires a dictator to work
There is no way that destroying the welfare state and impoverishing american workers would ever work unless a strong dictator was in charge to crush the opposition. Even scattered, disorganized opposition cannot be tolerated.

Get out of your fantasy world, liberatrians. You best exemplar is General Pinochet. He understood that Chicago school economics required political repression (and mass murder) to work.

"Small government" my ass.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:11 AM
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18. Just leaves me shaking my head....
These people are just soooo frikkin' stoooooopid!

:kick:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:26 AM
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19. Bush may be spending money like a drunken sailor, but he's no liberal.
This is just another opportunity to move federal money into the hands of his contractor/campaign contributers. That's why Rove is in charge. Just wait and see how little actually goes to fixing the mess in New Orleans.

He's not conservative, he's not liberal. He's a criminal that fronts the Republican Syndicate Party.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:42 AM
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22. Tucker Carlson said the Conservatives would "sit bolt upright" over Bush's
New Deal Speech. He said it wouldn't go well with them. Not that Carlson is believable on much but he was spot on with that observation, anyway.

But, where was World Net Daily when millions were wasted in Iraq? Where were they for every program Bush has ramrodded through that gave money to his corporate interests? No money for the people to rebuild the Gulf because that's not true Conservativism but a Roosevelt give away? :eyes:

It's truly scary to see their convoluted thinking.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:45 AM
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23. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
No, dude, it's just that neoconservatism SUCKS ROCKS.

THAT'S the problem. Your little cronyism-lovin', money-grubbin', killing poor people and not carin', using the Bible to hate people fucking IDIOTS do NOT know how to um, GOVERN. Nor do they care to know. Why should they? Stupid idiots like you gonna vote for them every fucking time. Why? Because they like you ignant and afeared of your own shadow and that's the way they're gonna keep you so you'll keep voting for their incompetent asses.

And you will. Because you are totally craven and stupid.

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