Grrr. Woman in parking lot and elevator..

[lostnfound]

starts a conversation with me --
she: 'Well, looks like a hurricane might be headed our way'
me: Yep.
she: I swear I've never seen so many hurricanes
me: Yep, I guess we may see more of them, the weather is changing
she: I have never seen so many ignorant people as are out there walking around today, that don't know anything
(I'm doing a doubletake now; initially I expected she was a koolaid drinker based on the quaint hairdo, heavy makeup, and other ornaments of her style of dress, but now I am second-guessing myself, maybe I was wrong, perhaps she's speaking of people ignorant of global warming. Ha.)
she: And all those Hollywood liberals, who cares what they think
me: (momentarily stunned into silence, trying to see the connection)
she: Do you know two of them spoke against OUR president last night? I couldn't believe it.
me: (still stunned, but mumbling..) well ma'am, I'm sure I would have supported whatever they had to say, because I don't have much good to say about him either.
she: (apparently stunned, though I don't understand why she assumed I supported him -- she definitely didn't see my bumper stickers) well, Katrina had nothing to do with our president, you know, the governor has to ASK
me: she DID ..she DID ask

and we departed.

********
I feel disgusted. Does she normally get such blind agreement to her comments that she simply expects it?? It all happened so quickly. I spend hours reading the news, so I could have told her about the assignment of responsibility and authority within National Response Plan for Incidents of National Significance, or about the promised FEMA buses that never arrived, or about the neocon plan to dismantle federal agencies, or about the whistleblower who said how great James Lee Witt was and how it has all been destroyed. I could have told her about SCI and Kenyon. Etc.

What could I possibly say, after having just a 60 second encounter with such a skewed world?

[TwoHandedLayup]

1. I work with pieces of crap like her

All they do is listen to Rush and Fox News. Could have been my relatives too. Ignorance is bliss I tell them. Ignorance is bliss....dumbfucks.

[rustydog]

3. One of my co-workers complains about arguing with a r/w

alleged born-again christian who backs Bush because of his like Christian values who said: "It is not my problem." regarding the people who failed to leave new Oleans.

He is an avowed "christian" and Rush listener.I tell my coworker to tell this uncaring fuck that they won't discuss politics any more.
The neo-facist so-called Christian keeps up the debate.
funny, he doesn't espouse those beliefs to me.

[Not Me]

7. My parents are pretty moderate (politically), but they switch on Foxnews

because their cable company has placed it on channel 6, right in there with their local channels. Meanwhile, CNN/MSNBC/CSPAN etc are all up in the 100-200 range.

I am about to put it on parental lock!

Adelphia Cable, btw.

[Pepperbelly]

31. You work with pieces of crap? Yuck! What a nasty gig! nt

:D :D :D :D :D

[TallahasseeGrannie]

2. There is not a thing

you could have said that would change her mind.

[Iris]

4. Right, but you also did the right thing by speaking up. There's no reason

to allow these people to think everyone agrees with the.

[lostnfound]

21. That's exactly what I thought, too.

Keeping our mouths shut is part of our problem on the left.

[Missy M]

5. I encounter people like her talking in restaurants praising bush....

and the republicans with loud voices, for all to hear, you can't escape it and they have a right to their opinion. What bothers me is how outraged they become when you disagree, WE of course don't have the right to our opinion in this free country. We are then labeled unpatriotic (their favorite), do not support the soldiers, why don't we move to a different country, etc. and of course anything bad is never, ever the fault of bush.

[raccoon]

17. Yes! Yes! it's exactly as you said, as if

"WE of course don't have the right to our opinion in this free country."

As if nobody had ANY right to criticize the Presidents in any way whatsoever.

Betcha they didn't think like that when Clinton was President.

[maxsolomon]

6. where in america would someone still assume you support *?

not here in the seattle bubble...

[Blue_In_AK]

14. Not even here in red Alaska...

I generally feel pretty safe in engaging strangers in conversation about ** and having them agree with me. Maybe I've just got good demoradar.

[lostnfound]

22. Texas.

But this is Houston, so she should have known better -- it's about 50-50, I think.

[ComerPerro]

8. Where does this right wing attitude of "He's our president, so STFU"

come from?

How come they didn't have an problem slandering Clinton and his family? He was our president too.

[NorCalDem]

10. Summed up by my favorite saying about kool-aid drinkers!

"It's the hypocrisy, stupid!"

That's all you need to say!

[ComerPerro]

11. I'm used to the hypocrisy, but it still makes me sick

To see these people try to show moral outrage, and to be offended at the idea of someone insulting "The President".

They are so dishonest.

[MountainLaurel]

12. Church

Where they're taught never to question authority figures and not to think for themselves, or else it's a sin. Except when Democrats are concerned, thus explaining Clinton.

[ComerPerro]

13. That's what gets me

If they learned it at church, people wouldn't have acted the way they did toward the Clintons.

[MountainLaurel]

25. Their overlords told them to hate Clinton

And so they did.

[lostnfound]

23. An excellent point. nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. I'm sure she supported Clinton

just because he was President too. :sarcasm:

[bobbieinok]

27. conservative religious, like Pentecostals, say Bible says

government leaders are chosen and anointed by God (a passage in Romans?).........I think this passage 'miraculously' appeared once Clinton was no longer president'.... at least Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et al sure didn't preach on it

all authority is chosen and anointed by God: parents, teachers, bosses, government...........this teaching is a life saver for all bad/evil authority people

I've asked a few why then they supported the American Revolution? .... topic quickly changed

the mind-set is very disturbing

[KharmaTrain]

9. Ask A Simple Question...

I've had a lot of success with this one against the kool-aid drinkers either blaming Nagin/Blanco or saying "boooosh didn't make the hurricane happen"...I ask the following:

1.) The issue is what happened AFTER the storm hit...as people were starving and dehydrating on roof tops. Where was George?

2.) Is there ANYTHING this regime did wrong? Is there any responsibility you're willing to take in these needless deaths?

They can spin about "it's their fault for not getting out of there". Uh uh uh...we're talking AFTER...those "buses" were already flooded, Gretna police were on the Crosstown Connection with shotguns at the ready...where was George?

They can say "it's a state matter"...that opens up the question as to where the National Guard was...and the disaster declarations that gave boooosh the authority to send in those forces even before the storm had abated....where was George?

Yep...they're blaming victims and it's immoral...straight out immoral. Their total ignorance and arrogance doesn't deserve anything but contempt.

[lostnfound]

26. I've asked a (former) friend Question #2

and she said No. She agrees with everything he has done.

I miss the old friend. Maybe someday she will wake up from this collective hypnosis.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. "Our President"? That right there would have set me off on her.

:grr: Ignorant kool aid drinker. Don't these morans ever think for themselves? They hear the official RW talking point and they run with it. Like a dog with a bone, they won't let it go, and they never ever bother to check out the facts. Better just to remain ignorant I guess.

[Mr_Spock]

18. I got tired of the Repukes with the "I'm right so I can just say it"

attitude. Now they are no longer permitted to talk about anything political without being taken to the woodshed as to "where did you hear that sorry ass pack of lies". Now that they know they will be taken to task on EVERYTHING they say, they simply have learned to keep their lies to themselves.

[newportdadde]

19. My coworker did said the same "you have to ask for help line"

This must have come out on an email blitz. I found one on snopes titled blame Nagin. I guess maybe it got spread that way.

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. We can no longer afford to be polite

In the past, most people would just shut up and not discuss politics. I wasn't polite. Well screw polite. It's not polite to deliberately withhold assistance from people in the middle of a disaster.

Now, every chance I get I engage these morans and knock down their talking points. It's a lot of fun trying to educate them. I know at the very least, I give them one hell of headache.

[Tennessee Gal]

24. Here is what I did once in a restaurant...

I live in a small town that has a meat and three cafe. There is a large round table towards the back where the local yokels congregate and discuss politics. I was sitting at a booth beside the table one day when a right wing nut I am acquainted with was shooting off his mouth. When he paused I took my shot.

I said in a loud voice, "You know what is wrong with you? You are just like every other Republican I know. YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!"

Half the restaurant exploded in laughter!

His face turned beet red.

I loved it! He has not said another word about politics in my presence!

[Catherine Vincent]

33. Oh my!

You were one brave woman! I guess the other half frowned because they were republican. LOL.

[Cocoa]

28. if you see her again, share this cartoon with her

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4816154

[LibDemAlways]

29. My response would have been

"When Clinton was President, did you speak against him? I have a hunch you did. Why does it bother you that people criticize Bush, or are you just a hypocrite?"

Then I would have walked away.

[ismnotwasm]

30. I practise this facial expression

Of complete disgust followed by "you LIKE *?" Where do you get your information? Oh, my, GOD! Conversation goes nowhere after that but it sure is fun. (When they start to sputter out stuff I say "talk to me when you've done some research, that is so disgusting, I can't believe it")

[Pepperbelly]

32. The best answer: are you fuckin' nuts? nt

[Piperay]

34. You did well under the circumstances

these people toss this crap out there without warning when you don't expect it. I think it is good you were able to saying anything at all. :thumbsup: