Beware the Beast Man
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:27 PM
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Something odd I noticed while watching "Outfoxed" last night. |
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I finally got around to seeing it, and I noticed something strange when watching the banter between Carl Cameron and Bush in that outtake of their "interview." While he didn't necessarily say anything buffoonish or the like, Bush actually seemed looser, calmer, himself, and dare I say it, more human. And no, I am not playing apologetics here, just stating that everything about this administration seems scripted, including Bush himself.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:29 PM
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1. That's because it is --- scripted. |
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Read Worse than Watergate in which John Dean makes this point very effectively.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:29 PM
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No sorry, I refuse to believe that. :-)
To distort the Sex Pistols;
"He aint no Human Being"
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:34 PM
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4. That's why I left that "I'm not an apologist" footnote. |
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:33 PM
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3. Bush is fine (as in that clip) when surrounded by people that love him ... |
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... but turns into a stuttering huffy child when in the company of awakened reporters or an eloquent opponent. Remember that first debate with Kerry?
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:34 PM
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5. ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding |
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Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 02:35 PM by xxqqqzme
ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding...if you see Lakoff's CD on framing...there is a clip from a 2000 interview in which blivet** has NO - as in NONE - accent - & he is glib, non-stuttering, coherent. I think he uuhhs & umms cuz he's trying 2 remember what saurove told him 2 say.
blivet** himself has admitted is is a completely manufactured & marketed consumer product.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:36 PM
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7. Come to think of it...yes. |
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He had a trace of a Texan accent, as would be expected of one who lived there for a number of years, but it wasn't the "Yee-ha! I'm a cowboy!" twang.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:35 PM
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6. and what is seemed 'himself'? Are you saying he is really more human.. |
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than we all give him credit for?
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:38 PM
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8. I knew this would happen... |
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:P
By "himself," I mean out of character. No posturing, no smirk, no idiotic catch phrases.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:43 PM
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12. So you think the posturing, smirking and idiotic catch phrases are.... |
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thought up by his handlers and are not the real bush and when he is himself he is looser, calmer and human.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:46 PM
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13. Umm, no. I believe he has a severe dislike for the public eye. |
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I don't know what your intentions are, but if you are trying to frame me as a Bush sympathizer, please don't.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:53 PM
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14. I am not trying to frame you for anything I am just trying to understand.. |
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what you meant. It may be true that he is more human than we think he is and is merely a puppet for those who are really running this country behind the scenes.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:56 PM
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16. That's precisely what I think. |
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Check out my post #11 below. That pretty much explains my theory.
Sorry i got so defensive- sometime you have to choose your words wisely 'round here. :)
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:38 PM
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9. "Bush On The Couch" by Justin Frank, MD |
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You really will like this book. It does a psychoanalytical profile of GWB, much as the CIA shrinks do such profiles of world leaders.
I just finished it (for the second time), and was reminded that GWB, because of a variety of learning disabilities an absent father, a cold and dangerous mother, and a terrifically traumatic childhood, has cultivated his personal charm to substitute and/or cover up his deficiencies - which are many and which have been concealed by his family name.
In fact, he's a fragile, frightened man, intimidated by just about everyone. What he does is try to get by with personal charm, even though there's a mean streak a mile wide running through him. He's very nearly a sociopath, in his complete inability to feel compassion or empathy for anyone else.
He's a very, very damaged man, and the shame and tragedy is that he was propelled into the Oval Office to serve as the handpuppet for men with various and dangerous agendae.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:42 PM
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11. I truly think he wanted nothing more out of life |
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Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 02:43 PM by Beware the Beast Man
than that of the spoiled rich kid.
Apart from the power that goes with it, I don't think he ever, nor do I think he still does, wanted a life in politics.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:56 PM
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15. He wants to be able to hurt people |
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He wants to feel powerful, and to inflict hurt and pain on others. He projects. He knows how impotent and defective he is, and so he projects his shortcomings onto others, and then punishes them for their perceived "defects."
He's a very, very disturbed individual.
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Mon Sep-19-05 02:42 PM
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10. Thats because its Faux News |
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He knows that they won't ask him anything that could possibly interpreted as a "difficult question". They know how much he hates hard work.
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Mon Sep-19-05 03:43 PM
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17. Saw "Outfoxed" a while ago. |
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So I can't be sure it's the Cameron interview, but I remember an interview in the film where * is rocking back and forth saying something like "That's great. That's great." I remember the eyes looked so soulless, really very scary. Is that the same interview?
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