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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:10 PM
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Immigration memo intended for Rove arrives on Democrat's fax
Immigration memo intended for Rove arrives on Democrat's fax
Larisa Alexandrovna


An immigration memo intended for embattled White House advisor Karl Rove arrived instead on the fax machine of a Democratic congressman, RAW STORY can reveal.

The congressman who received the fax opted not to comment, and asked that his name not be used.

The focus of Smith's memo, addressed to "Hon. Karl Rove," is on immigration politics.

"Immigration needs to be considered in the context of: (1). Media Bias, (2). Animosity toward the president and (3) the feelings of the Republican base," Smith's memo states.

Smith is a member of the Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims as well as the Subcommittee on Economic Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Cybersecurity. No issues regarding the legislative jurisdiction of these committees are mentioned.


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http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Immigration_memo_intended_for_Rove_arrives_on_Demo_0919.html

The Fweepers would freak if they knew how they were being sold out by their heros on this issue.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:16 PM
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1. They have no sense of ethics or loyalty
even to their own supporters.

I would love to see the last paragraph blown up to a times square sized poster for all the freeps to see.
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:17 PM
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3. I wish they would.
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:17 PM
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2. Doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:18 PM
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4. Well, I know some will be pissed for me saying this, BUT...
...we should be leading the charge on immigration enforcement before the Rs occupy the field. We should point out the rich interests that want exploitable immigration. We need to be the law-and-order party in perception, not just fact.

They intend this to be the hot button issue of '06 and '08.
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:22 PM
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5. Standing up for American workers is a good thing. Agreed.
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 04:22 PM by MrTriumph
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:25 PM
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7. Immigration a hot button issue. Yeah, right.
Let's see. The rethugs think that immigration will have more traction than:

Iraq

Homeland InSecurity and Incompetence in FEMA

Budget Deficit that is finally becoming real to many voters

Have I got that right?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:39 PM
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14. don't mock
he/she is right, immigration will be HUGE in 2006.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:03 PM
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15. Okay, explain why you believe that. n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:07 AM
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16. Dude, they made JK's war record a hot-button issue.
Voters are actually concerned about this, and not just in the Southwest either. My mother who still lives in MA said that Gov. Mitt Romney's (R) ending of bilingual education has been greeted with wide acclaim despite the fact that it is MA.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:21 PM
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17. My point is, it's not going to be "the hot button issue".
That was the assertion I was disagreeing with. I can't see it displacing Iraq, post-Katrina issues, AND the deficit.

Can the rethugs make it an issue? Yes, but they cannot make it "the hot button issue".
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:22 PM
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6. Smith forgets Bush wants GuestWorkers
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:27 PM
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8. Wouldn't this be a good way for Rove
to change the subject from Katrina?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:29 PM
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9. By 2014 - there will be a huge deficite of workers - because
boomers will have retired. And this deficite will go on for 20 years.

If they don't have "guest workers" or an amnestry - it will be worker's market and Corporations hate that. In "worker's markets" everyone has to pay to fight inflation - not just the poor & middle class like now.

I find it hard to belive that the corporations actually want 10 Million to be sent home. Or no "guest workers" in the future.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:25 PM
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18. You're right about corporations.
This issue is important for winning elections, not necessarily for actual policy.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:38 PM
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20. So - why are they baiting Dems with the minuteman issue? Are they
trying to take the Dems to a dance and 'dance them outside'?

Cause the RW really does need huge number of bodies in the US - working hard, keeping inflation down.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:05 AM
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21. They know most people oppose leniency for illegal aliens.
The whole idea of circumventing the law, sneaking in, and working in the black market is very irksome to most people. They want to use the issue to get reelected. Simple as that. They also think that the Ds have no defense against that kind of attack. Go one way and be tagged as soft on crime; go the other way and piss off Latinos and liberal intellectuals. Same with the abortion issue. The middle ground of pro-life-but-against-govt.-intrusion is too nuanced of a position for most people.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:42 PM
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10. I would be careful on this
Nothing happens by accident in Rove World.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:31 PM
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11. Was careful, solid piece:)
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:36 PM
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13. Not questioning source.
Questioning who faxed it.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:34 PM
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12. The Republicans won't use this issue
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 05:34 PM by Ignacio Upton
It doesn't play with their pro-free trade wing. They can't get rid of those "poor little brown people" and screw the working class at the same time, you know.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:29 PM
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19. They will use it.
It plays to their paranoid base. It is about winning elections, not policy. The Rs have been in control of the govt. since 2001 and Congress since 1995. Despite this, we still have abortion and many other things that the R base finds annoying. Where is that national ban on gay marriage amendment Bush promised? They use these hot-button issues to get in, then revert back to their corporate owners.
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