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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:06 PM
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Democrats face pressures on Roberts issue
<snip> One Democrat who is close to the Judiciary Committee said the issue broke down this way: If the nominee to replace O'Connor is going to be more conservative than Roberts, and more controversial, would it be better to have seven or eight Democratic votes in favor of Roberts or to have 30 or 35?

A second Democrat said part of the calculation reflected the view of some senators that Bush may shrink from confrontation when he fills the second vacancy, at a time when public support for the war in Iraq is dwindling and his overall public approval is at the lowest point of his presidency.

Yet a third said some Democratic senators argue that they will be in a better political position to oppose a second, more conservative nominee if they have voted for Roberts. <snip>

"Never once have Democrats benefited from attempts at reasonableness and compromise and accommodation," said Jim Jordan, former executive director of the party's senatorial committee. "To the contrary, Bush and his team seem to view political compromise as weakness, and they punish it rather than reward or reciprocate it." <snip>

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/12689119.htm

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:16 PM
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1. I'm with Jordan. Why appease them at all? Makes NO sense.
Oppose EVERYONE who doesn't fairly represent the American people.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:17 PM
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2. I agree.
In times past, there was accomodation and compromise.

And it worked.

Not with this bunch; individually, not one of them has a conscience, or a desire to do what is best for the American people.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:44 PM
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8. Total agreement here
Don't set a precedents for tolerating judges who are bad choices.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:20 PM
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3. Jim Jordan gets it
"Never once have Democrats benefited from attempts at reasonableness and compromise and accommodation," said Jim Jordan, former executive director of the party's senatorial committee. "To the contrary, Bush and his team seem to view political compromise as weakness, and they punish it rather than reward or reciprocate it."

We have been trying to tell you and all of your Washington D.C. consultant friends that for 5 years.
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verminator Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:47 PM
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9. How many tedious replies do new members have to complete ?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:48 PM
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10. It's a secret
Really, it is. I don't know either.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:22 PM
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4. Jordan has it right - democratics need to come out swinging
And go down fighting. Anything less is cowardice, not strategery.

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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:25 PM
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5. Bullies don't respect compromise

Bullies respect a powerful, no holds barred response. When are the Dems going to stop making up rationales for their wavering?
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:26 PM
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6. Jordan is right but 10 bucks say Dems fold. -nt-
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kitp Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:34 PM
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7. Oppose Roberts
I agree, compromise gains nothing. The Dems should fight Roberts hard. The argument to use is that he is unqualified.
We have seen, with FEMA, that this administration appoints political friends who are unqualified for the positions. What proof does the administration offer that Roberts is anything different?
Doesn't the controversy surrounding Hamand indicate that he is simply another political crony being given a position in return for favors?
He has little experience, we cannot see all of his writings, and of those we can see he simply says "I was reflecting the views of my client, not my own views." Well, who is his client going to be if he gets on the SC?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:37 AM
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11. kick
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:40 AM
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12. How about ZERO??
If the republicans want to install him, let THEM be the only ones responsible for him.It makes me ill every time some dems "give cover" to the repubes..

Every day, they drag out some dem who voted for this or that, and remind the people.."Well, the DEMOCRAT senators from ( fill in any states) VOTED for this too "..

They are experts at Briar-Patching dems, and we keep falling for it :(
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