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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:17 AM
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Time for world to shun USA says one Canadian (warning major rant)
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:47 AM by JohnyCanuck
Shunning

by Paul Harris

<snip>

In modern times, occasions arise when one or several countries choose to ‘shun’ another nation as a way of trying to influence a change in that nation’s behaviour. Think of the United States’ embargo on Cuba, sanctions levied against bad actors by the United Nations (like Libya, Iraq), Canadian sanctions against South Africa, eventually adopted by most of the British Commonwealth. That last example is a model of what can be accomplished with international condemnation; although the world’s sanctions against Apartheid cannot claim full credit for the turnaround in South Africa, it was a powerful incentive to those who sought to bring about changes there.

This is an article about the United States of America. From the outset, let me state clearly that there is tremendous credit due to the US for a wide variety of social, humanitarian, artistic, scientific, intellectual accomplishments. But this small group of people, ruled by an even smaller group of thugs (a kleptocracy), is truly the epitome of the ‘tail-wagging-the-dog’ syndrome. The US comprises a small fraction of the world but it sees all the rest of the world – and, for emphasis, ALL the rest of the world – as its servant, its supplier of cheap goods and labour, its warehouse, its flea market, the place to play with its guns.

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From 1945 to the early years of the 21st century, the US attempted to overthrow more than 40 foreign governments and to crush more than 30 populist movements fighting against insufferable regimes. In the process, they bombed about 25 countries, killed several million people, and condemned many millions more to lives of agony, poverty and despair. Oh yes, and they’re presently sabre-rattling against Iran and, maybe, North Korea. (Forgive me if I’ve forgotten any military excursion here; it’s hard to keep track. And I do concede that Korea and Iraq {1991} were different because they occurred under the aegis of the United Nations; but my that does not deflect from my point that this a bellicose group.)

Most of this activity took place during a time when the United States was allegedly in a defensive posture. In reality, the United States has never been in a defensive posture. It’s short history has been one of expansionism; first through movement to the west coast, then economically in the rest of the Americas where profits can be derived without the overhead of actually running the countries.

More at: http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20050918204323413
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:20 AM
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1. Long past time.
BushCo has been spitting on the rest of the world, in every possible way, ever since Bush took office.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:21 AM
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2. If this Canadian was halfway serious...
...he'd support a civilian coup d'etat within our borders.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:25 AM
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3. Outstanding and kicked
:kick:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:26 AM
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4. Sad, but true
The folly of neocons and freepers, however, is that they take pride in not caring about what the rest of the world thinks...to our collective detriment.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:31 AM
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5. The corporations will care only when their profits are affected.
When they perceive it's in their best interests to get a new group in, that's when we'll have a little change.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:32 AM
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6. Such embargoes would have to come from outside the UN
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:34 AM by Selatius
Such sanctions are usually left up to the UN. More specifically, it is left up to the UN Security Council; however, the US has a permanent seat on the Council. Any economic sanctions against the US would be vetoed by the US.

I'm assuming we're talking about embargoes here as opposed to symbolic gestures.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:35 AM
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7. when asked about why, he responded
"they're just so close to California"


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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:43 AM
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8. Where's Sammy ?
We need a Sammy the Bull kind of whistle blower. He will be killed eventually. We as the people should raise funds to seek out and pay our Sammy. He's merely a lobbist. We are the only entity in the equation without a lobbist.Where's Sammy?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:50 AM
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9. "We all know its elections are unfair contests of rich against rich"
I found this paragraph interesting:

"The US was founded on the principle of democracy, the republican form of democracy, but it has been many years since it practiced democracy or even believed that it should. We all know its elections are unfair contests of rich against rich, often with unscrupulous polling practices to ensure the right person wins. And we all know that once elected, the winners are ensconced for the sole purpose of lining their own pockets and those of their backers."

that's why us progressives must work for a total rehaul of our election process and not settle for DINOs, who are interested in keeping up the status quo. WE NEED REAL CHANGE!
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:03 PM
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10. Recommended

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:08 PM
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11. The Canadian Nuclear Threat is real!
Fifty-Four Fourty or fight!
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