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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:37 AM
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Are there ANY rich Liberals who read DU?
If so, I would like to talk to you about how you can help the Liberal cause with a series of microinvestments and microdonations.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:38 AM
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1. And if you are NOT rich...
kick and recommend this so that it can be noticed by those who are, please!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:38 AM
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2. Rich in love, baby.
But that's it.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:39 AM
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3. I'm not rich but if I was
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't respond to any post like this.

Just sayin'

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:40 AM
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4. Why not? nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:50 AM
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12. Usually attractive investments aren't offered over the Internet...
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:51 AM by LoZoccolo
...anonymously.

Plus the term "microdonation" conjunction with the word "microinvestment" doesn't make it seem any more attractive (is it a euphamism for a loss?).
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:52 AM
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14. I'd want to invest in people who invest in themselves
If you start a program yourself, that shows the commitment I would want to invest in. Everyting up front where one can see what the goals are and what you are trying to do.

This is something different - this is an invitation to find out more about what this person wants me to donate my money too. Once you take that first step towards giving money by discussing whatever this micro-investment is, well, it's harder to say no. Once you start investing yourself, it's harder to stop investing yuorself. If for no other reason than at that point you have a relationship with the person trying to get you to invest, and you don't want to dissappoint by putting your money somewhere else.

This is normal salesmanship - it's wierd to think of, but in a way making your potential customers come at least part of the way to you makes them more willing to give you money.

Bryant
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:54 AM
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15. Plus, many times...
...opportunity someone won't fully disclose up front == Amway.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:05 PM
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22. LOL!
As if anybody here would have anything to do with Spamway.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:41 AM
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5. if they are micro..Why does the DUer needs to be rich?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:42 AM
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9. The term microinvestment...
Means "Under $10K".

Not something the average person has in their wallets, but not something an actually rich person would usually bother with because it is such small potatoes.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:05 PM
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:28 PM
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25. What a mean spirited thing to say.
I am offended that you think I am trying to rip off anybody.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:41 AM
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6. micro investments... never heard that term.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:41 AM by henslee
BTW, I'll gladly pay you tommorow for a hamburger today.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:45 AM
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10. All my investments are so micro
they are invisible.

Rich in spirit only.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:47 AM
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11. Did anyone ever tell you, you have th sexiest screen name?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:50 AM
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13. surely you don't mean MOI
but perhaps SMOKING JACKET?

Bet he's good looking, too!
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:41 AM
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7. rich is a relative term
we're all rich in some ways....
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KenCarson Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:41 AM
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8. rich is a state of mind IMO
i've never gone wanting , but i've also been willing/able to work


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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:56 AM
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16. What net worth do you consider to be rich?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:03 PM
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19. There are people who can spend $10K on a toy without thinking hard...
That is sort of the bottom end of what I am talking about.

These are the same people who could revolutionize Internet media efforts.

One of the shows I feature on White Rose, one of the best ones, is about to end for lack of donations to keep it going. A $10K donation would make all the difference. And there are LOTS of producers of really good media who could benefit from investment or donations to allow them to syndicate, advertise, and do their good work as a full time job.

And if I could find a couple of dozen "Angel" investors who wanted to help out this sort of effort, and form them into a syndicate, and solicit grant or investment propositions, then maybe we could make some progress on the stranglehold the Right has on media.

The Right did JUST this 20 years ago, and look at what they accomplished.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:09 PM
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24. lots of low interest loans coming available now
sorry ben i'm not buying it

if the show is that worthy why does it need a hand-out?

a donation means you are going to be beholden to whoever gives the $$$

no more independence

no more saying what you think w.out checking w. the sponsor

get a low interest loan or acknowledge that the interest isn't there, if you're not willing to invest in it, why should i?

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:23 PM
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27. I am already fully invested in this show.
And have given hundreds of dollars towards it.

But even if I gave all I have, that does not keep it alive at this point.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:27 PM
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29. If you have a good business case, I'm sure you'd get attention
Whether your cause is Liberal or not, you still have to lay it out in terms of ROI.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:28 PM
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30. But that is not how the Right did things.
They did what I propose to do; Laid out the case in terms of political advantage.

That is why they now control the media.

Win politically, and the money will follow.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:51 PM
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31. You have to know how money will follow
Otherwise you can be surprised when it doesn't.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:58 AM
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17. Rich in spirit? nt
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:02 PM
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18. Depends on your definition of "rich" - if you're using the Repuke
definition of "middle class", then probably not . . .
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:03 PM
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20. Depends on what you mean by "rich"...
The IRS thinks I'm almost rich. I consider myself chronically sub-rich.

:shrug:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:07 PM
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23. I Was Gonna Say The Same Thing...
Rich as in assets or in money to invest?

I classify as both...but not on DU...I'm as poor and clueless as the rest here.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:45 PM
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26. Actually, Ben, you have EXACTLY the right idea.
The right spent most of the early seventies doing just this: investing in media outlets and local campaigns to get their guys on school boards, city councils, etc, which led to bigger local elections, which led to state elections, ehcih led to national elections..... They couldn't have done it if it weren't for guys like Scaife and Coors who were willing to pony up cash.

There is no equivalent of this effort on the left. People seem to think that just because we're on the right side of the facts and the right side of ethics that we'll eventually come out on top. NO. It doesn't work that way anymore.

All of these supposed "rich liberals" in Hollywood need to start shutting the fuck up about their opinions and start ponying up the dough for the foundations and think tanks that need to be created to make those opinions count..
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:27 PM
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28. Thanks!
I was feeling ganged-up on here.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:52 PM
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32. No, you're totally right. Just focus on...
doing the right thing AND making money at the same time. Then you'll get the attention of the right people.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:54 PM
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33. I'm rich
In hope

brains

rage






But unemployed
overeducated
savingsless
pensionless
healthcareless
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:19 PM
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34. I'm rich in all the same things.
But there must be somebody out here who has all that plus more money than they can possibly spend.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:23 PM
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35. I doubt anybody wants to listen to you
tell them what to invest their money in.
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