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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:46 PM
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Gen. Richard Myers: "The National Guard re-enlistment rate...alltime high"
"The National Guard re-enlistment rate is at an all time high..."

Gen Richard Myers, Chair, Joint Chiefs of Staff.

:wtf:

Live statement at the pentagon press conference.

Will post the full transcript ASAP.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:49 PM
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1. Well, when you aren't allowed to muster out and are forced to re-enlist,
then, yeah, re-enlistment is gonna be at an all-time high.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:25 PM
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13. Plus, they've lost their jobs and BushInc is offering them big re-signing
bonuses.

Really fair, heh?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:49 PM
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2. I'm sure it is.
These guys are seeing their buddies blown away. There is tremendous pressure on them to stay for the sake of their friends.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:49 PM
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3. Just like the Iraqis are throwing flowers at our feet, eh, General? nt
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:51 PM
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4. Wonder about that "new-enlistment" rate?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:52 PM
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5. It sounds like he's on a "alltime high"
He really should ease back on the dosage.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:53 PM
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6. He forgot one little thing .......
Re up now or spend the rest of tour in Iraq.

What a piece of shit ..... he knows this policy.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:53 PM
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7. I wonder what funny business they've used to cook those numbers?
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 12:54 PM by sad_one

I wonder if they are telling soldiers if they don't re-enlist that they'll be stop-lossed anyways and won't get any re-enlistment bonuses?
And/or
Could it be that the percentage of re-enlistments is artificially high because stop-lossed soldiers aren't counted in the numbers of those who did not re-enlist?


They must think we are all really dumb. :(
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:54 PM
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8. There was a post here a few weeks ago
saying the military was offering NGs very generous re-enlistment bonuses and telling them if they turned it down, they'd just be stop-lossed and would have to stay anyway without the extra loot. :grr:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:55 PM
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9. You are stop-lossed from leaving
If you re-up, you get a bonus and stay in the NG. If you don't re-up, you just stay in the NG without a bonus.
What would you choose?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:56 PM
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10. Just like recruitment goals have been met for many months now
They managed that one by lowering the goals to below the month's actual recruitment.

Lying is not even second nature to these cretins; it is first and foremost, an inborn genetic trait.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:02 PM
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11. Pretty sad state of affairs. The US government is REALLY screwing...
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 01:03 PM by wake.up.america
up people's lives.

FOR WHAT?
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:09 PM
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12. How it works
Lets say you are Joe Sergeant - with 6 months left on your contract. But wait! Your unit just got notified that it will go to Iraq in 3 months!

Your options:

a) Don't re-enlist. You have to go to Iraq anyway, and your contract is involuntarily extended until you get back from Iraq, PLUS 3 months.

b) Re-enlist for 2 years. You still have to go to Iraq, but you get a little extra money, and your contract ends up being only 3 months longer than option a.

c) Move to Canada.

Not much of a choice there.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:59 AM
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14. transcript
http://www.dod.gov/transcripts/2005/tr20050920-secdef3941.html

<snip>

Q Right. But I'm saying it's doing a lot all at one time. Estimates are it needs billions of dollars or more in equipment and training. Is there any particular focus on that in the wake of Katrina?

SEC. RUMSFELD: Well, I met with the secretary of the Army today and his folks, and -- just one of my regular, periodic meetings with them where we review a series of issues that I think are important -- and one of the things we discussed was the -- which I've explained here many times -- the rebalancing that's taking place between the active component and the Reserve component, and the rebalancing that's taking place within the Guard and Reserve and within the active force. And, for example, they're in the process of reducing the number of tank units and artillery units within the Guard, which are obviously of less use in the event of a domestic issue than they -- some of -- alternatives like civil affairs, or engineers, or Seabees, or the various kinds of things that they might be called on to do domestically. So it's the kind of thing that's been reviewed and -- over a continuing time.

Do you want to --

GEN. MYERS: Let me just set -- just a kind of a little context here. This period in Iraq -- and it's starting to change a little bit now, but in the past year we've had seven brigade combat teams from the National Guard involved in combat in Iraq. They have done a terrific job. We were heavy on the Guard because we were transforming the Army. So the next rotation you'll see will be less reliant on the Guard, more reliant on active duty, because we're going to build some new -- some new brigades in the Army. So you just need to know that was going on.

And the same time, during Katrina, the Guard deployed I think over 50,000 men and women to help with that. And, as you heard from the director of the Guard Bureau, General Blum, there were hundreds of thousands that could have been called to that. And just one more factor, just to make sure the context is right: and the reenlistment in the National Guard is at an all-time high.

Q General Myers --

SEC. RUMSFELD: Just a minute. Just a minute.

GEN. MYERS: So -- so -- so, we have a force, we have a National Guard force -- and I could talk about the Reserves in the same light, we have a Guard force that has never been more ready to support whatever mission this country calls upon; never been more ready. And you can talk to any Guard leader and say, Are you more ready today than you were four years ago, and they would say, Yes, we are. And you'd also find morale is extremely high because this has been a very effective force, they like to be called upon. Yes, you can overuse them; yes, there's some equipment issues that have to be dealt with, as there are for the active component as well because of the way we're trying to husband resources inside Iraq and not move a lot of equipment back and forth.

So there are those issues. Absolutely. But a lot of that stems from prior decisions a long time ago, and not current decisions, I can tell you that.

more....
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