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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:47 AM
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UPI Reports Second Able Danger Data Purge in 2003
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UPI reports second Able Danger data purge in 2003
by leveymg http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/21/11831/3427
Wed Sep 21st, 2005 at 08:08:31 PDT

The UPI reports that high Pentagon officials ordered a second round of data destruction from the Able Danger (AD) files in 2003. In a statement, Cong. Curt Weldon referred to "a second elimination of data in 2003." http://about.upi.com/products/perspectives/UPI-20050920-091827-1362R

In addition, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a former AD staff member, stated in a radio interview yesterday that the AD files contained information about the October 2000 al-Qaeda attack on the USS Cole, as well as data linking Mohamed Atta to three other major 9/11 conspirators detected inside the US. http://qtmonster.typepad.com/qt_monsters_place/2005/09/shaffer_sources.html

If accurate, these are VERY significant developments that establish that Pentagon officials conducted a cover-up of what US intelligence had on file about the identities and plans of terrorist cells known to be inside the U.S. before 9/11. It also shows that DoD destroyed relevant files that had been requested preserved by the 9/11 Commission after the panel's establishment in March 2002.

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The second destruction of AD files came as Col. Shaffer and other AD staff members attempted to draw the Commission's attention to the AD findings.

One of the key allegations made by Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer in the Able Danger affair is that even though he specifically told the 9/11 Commission that Able Danger had identified Mohamed Atta, they resisted efforts to make the project's findings part of the public record or to investigate the information after the Pentagon failed to turn over relevant records.

The NYT reported on August 8: " said he was among a group that briefed Mr. Zelikow and at least three other members of the Sept. 11 commission staff about Able Danger when they visited the Afghanistan-Pakistan region in October 2003. said he had explicitly mentioned Mr. Atta as a member of a Qaeda cell in the United States."http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/09/politics/09intel.html?ei=5090&en=bc4d02afa0a46012&ex=12812 40000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

In recent weeks, the 9/11 Commission issued this statement that confirms that the Pentagon, in response to its request for AD documents, failed to turn over any materials that contained reference to Atta and the 9/11 hijackers. The CIA, similarly, claims it was unable to locate any documents that referenced the Abel Danger program. The Commission's statement did not reference whether the FBI produced any records of the numerous conversations and meetings which AD staff had with Bureau representative:

"In November 2003, shortly after the staff delegation had returned to the United States, two document requests related to ABLE DANGER were finalized and sent to DOD. One, sent on November 6, asked, among other things, for any planning order or analogous documents about military operations related to al Qaeda and Afghanistan issued from the beginning of 1998 to September 20, 2001, and any reports, memoranda, or briefings by or for either the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or the Commanding General of the U.S. Special Operations Command in connection with such planning, specifically including material related to ABLE DANGER. The other, sent on November 25, treated ABLE DANGER as a possible intelligence program and asked for all documents and files associated with "DIA's program `ABLE DANGER'" from the beginning of 1998 through September 20, 2001.

"In February 2004, DOD provided documents responding to these requests. Some were turned over to the Commission and remain in Commission files. Others were available for staff review in a DOD reading room. Commission staff reviewed the documents. Four former staff members have again, this week, reviewed those documents turned over to the Commission, which are held in the Commission's archived files. Staff who reviewed the documents held in the DOD reading room made notes summarizing each of them. Those notes are also in the Commission archives and have also been reviewed this week.

"The records discuss a set of plans, beginning in 1999, for ABLE DANGER, which involved expanding knowledge about the al Qaeda network. Some documents include diagrams of terrorist networks. None of the documents turned over to the Commission mention Mohamed Atta or any of the other future hijackers. Nor do any of the staff notes on documents reviewed in the DOD reading room indicate that Mohamed Atta or any of the other future hijackers were mentioned in any of those documents.

"A senior staff member also made verbal inquiries to the HPSCI and CIA staff for any information regarding the ABLE DANGER operation. Neither organization produced any documents about the operation, or displayed any knowledge of it."

The Commission's statement is silent as to whether the FBI produced any records of the numerous conversations and meetings which AD staff say they had with Bureau representatives, apparently both before and after 9/11.

Then, again in July 2004, AD staff members attempted to convince the 9/11 Commission staff director, Philip Zelikow, to get the commissioners to examine AD's findings. A NYT report (08/17/05) states:

"the commission did learn about Able Danger in 2003 and immediately requested Pentagon files about it, none of the documents turned over by the Defense Department referred to Mr. Atta or any of the other hijackers." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9821.htm+9/11+Commission+requests+Pentagon+files& ;hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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The second elimination of AD data in 2003 makes one wonder, what materials did the Pentagon destroy? Was it the matrix that linked Atta to the other intending hijackers that Col. Shaffer and his former colleagues recall creating? How might the AD project have come across the information upon which it was based to begin with?

The most likely source was once in the vast tape records of SIGINT intercepts held by the NSA, which is also under the command of Secretary Rumsfeld and his staff.

AD has been portrayed as some kind of immense search engine, an "open source" vacuum cleaner that scowered the net for information about al-Qaeda. That seems increasingly implausible.

The disclosure that AD had information about the attack on the USS Cole seems to confirm that the program was used to analyze the same classified NSA intercepts that led the CIA to track the Flt. 77 hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Midhar to an early January 2000 al-Qaeda planning summit in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where both the 9/11 operation and the Cole attacks were mapped out.

That meeting, which was monitored by the Agency and half a dozen allied intel services, was also attended by Mohamed Atta's roommate, Ramzi bin al Shibh, who returned afterwards to Hamburg. That would explain how DoD identified Atta and linked him to the others before he applied for a U.S. visa in March, 2000.

A few days ago, I wrote here that disclosure of the size of the AD data that was reportedly ordered destroyed, 2.5 terabytes (TB), is further evidence that the AD project computers were far better suited to mining and analyzing the NSA's own database, which is of the same scale, rather than the open internet which is far larger.


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Finally, there's a real conflict of interest in how the Pentagon is carrying out it's AD "investigation". Steve Cambone is in charge of those efforts which can't find the relevant files. He is also, apparently, the highest non-uniform DoD official who was briefed by the AD team before the project was shut down. Weldon says:

"I can tell you, to not have this covered by the 9/11 Commission, to not have it mentioned, for them to say, as they did initially, that it was historically insignificant -- 2.5 terabytes of data about Mohammed Atta and Al Qaida, a three-hour briefing for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is historically insignificant? A briefing that included Richard Schiefren (ph), with Steve Cambone, in March of 2001, five months before 9/11, is historically insignificant? I don't think so...." UPI, Ibid.

This whole thing is looking more and more like Cambone, the neo-cons, and Rummy made the decision to purge the DoD's Al-Qaeda domestic operations files, and have now been caught covering their tracks. The second AD file destruction will likely turn out to be VERY significant, and may be the "smoking gun" in the Pentagon's 9/11 coverup.

COPYRIGHT 2005, Mark G. Levey
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:52 AM
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1. nominated
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:56 AM
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2. Thanks
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:08 AM
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3. kicked and nominated
This should get the FReepers going. Drudge should have a field day with this one.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:21 PM
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4. So UPI (the Unification Patriotism Inquisitors) has the story...
think it's gonna go anywhere? Convince me that it has legs. Convince me that it has even little nubbins to crawl on.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:45 PM
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5. Googled this morning
With thanks to SeemsLikeaDream

Just the google headlines from this morning
Pentagon blocks officers from 9/11 hearing
Science Daily (press release) - 57 minutes ago
WASHINGTON, Sept. 21 (UPI) -- The Pentagon has ordered several officers and intelligence analysts not to testify before the US Senate ...

Cameras in cabins of planes suggested
Seattle Times, United States - 56 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — The Federal Aviation Administration is proposing today to place security cameras in the cabins of commercial airliners and giving wireless ...

Pentagon Nixes 9/11 Hearing Testimony
Guardian Unlimited, UK - 2 hours ago
By KIMBERLY HEFLING. WASHINGTON (AP) - The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify Wednesday about ...

Pentagon Nixes 9/11 Hearing Testimony
San Francisco Chronicle, United States - 2 hours ago
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer. The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify Wednesday ...

Pentagon Bars Military Officers and Analysts From Testifying
New York Times, United States - 11 hours ago
WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 - The Pentagon said Tuesday that it had blocked several military officers and intelligence analysts from testifying ...

Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
New York Times, United States - 14 hours ago
WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 - The Pentagon said today that it had blocked a group of military officers and intelligence analysts from testifying ...

Panel to probe pre-9/11 Pentagon claims
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, IN - 1 hour ago
By Siobhan Gorman. WASHINGTON – It’sa tale of intrigue that percolated for much of the summer: A congressman claims the Pentagon ...

Pentagon bars testimony on terrorism at open hearing
Contra Costa Times, CA - 2 hours ago
By Philip Shenon. WASHINGTON - The Pentagon said Tuesday that it had blocked several military officers and intelligence analysts ...

Pentagon Nixes 9/11 Hearing Testimony
Leading The Charge, Australia - 2 hours ago
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, 5 minutes ago. WASHINGTON - The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify Wednesday ...

El Pentágono Bloquea el Testimonio en el Senado sobre el ...
kaosenlared.net, Spain - 4 hours ago
By PHILIP SHENON. Officers and analysts had been scheduled to testify about a classified intelligence program, known as Able Danger. ...

Pentagon Bars Officers, Analysts From Testifying On Intelligence ...
TheDay (subscription), CT - 5 hours ago
By THE NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE. Washington — The Pentagon said Tuesday that it had blocked several military officers and intelligence ...

Pentagon Blocks Able Danger Testimony
NewsMax.com, FL - 8 hours ago
Pentagon lawyers have ordered five members of the Able Danger intelligence team not to testify at an open Senate in hearing scheduled for Wednesday morning ...

Intelligence team members ordered silent in 9/11 probe
Washington Times, DC - 10 hours ago
By Shaun Waterman. Defense Department lawyers have blocked members of a data-mining intelligence team from testifying today before ...

Pentagon Hides From Able Danger Hearings.
RedState.org - 11 hours ago
In what has to be one of the dumbest PR moves in recent memory, the Pentagon has barred its people from testifying in the Senate Able Danger hearings tomorrow. ...

Pentagon gags 'Able Danger' team
United Press International - 12 hours ago
By SHAUN WATERMAN. WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 (UPI) -- Defense Department lawyers have blocked members of a data-mining intelligence team ...

Able Danger -- a preview
Power Line, MN - 14 hours ago
The Senate Judiciary Committee begins hearings on Able Danger tomorrow. The Washington Times provides a preview. Among the witness will be: • Naval Capt. ...

9/11 relatives charge cover-up
Staten Island Advance, NY - Sep 20, 2005
They react to reported Defense Dept. bid to close Senate hearing on pre-attack identification of hijacker. By TERENCE J. KIVLAN. WASHINGTON -- Sept. ...

Pentagon Pushes to Hide 9/11 Mistakes
AlterNet, CA - Sep 20, 2005
Will the press and the public be excluded from this week's Senate Judiciary Committee hearings concerning a once-secret military intelligence unit called "Able ...

Probing Able Danger
Washington Times, DC - Sep 19, 2005
Tomorrow's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the Pentagon's top-secret military intelligence unit known as Able Danger should be quite a show. Rep. ...

UQ Wire: AP - Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders
Scoop.co.nz (press release), New Zealand - Sep 18, 2005
By DONNA DE LA CRUZ. 09/15/05 "AP" -- -- A Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist ...

Pentagon refuses to allow military officers to testify at hearing ...
San Diego Union Tribune, United States - 1 hour ago
By Kimberly Hefling. WASHINGTON – The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify Wednesday about ...

Pentagon forbids military to testify on pre-9/11 knowledge
USA Today - 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify Wednesday about the work of a secret military unit that ...

Pentagon blocks officers from 9/11 hearing:-
Webindia123, India - 43 minutes ago
The Pentagon has ordered several officers and intelligence analysts not to testify before the US Senate Judiciary Committee about the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. ...

Officer barred from telling Senate about 9/11/01 intelligence
NavyTimes.com, VA - 1 hour ago
By Kimberly Hefling. The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify Wednesday about the work of a secret ...

Pentagon Nixes 9/11 Hearing Testimony
Christian Broadcasting Network, VA - 48 minutes ago
By Kimberly Hefling. CBN.com – WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Department of Defense forbade a military intelligence officer to testify ...

Tale of 9/11 intrigue reaches a head today
Concord Monitor, NH - 2 hours ago
By SIOBHAN GORMAN. ASHINGTON - It's a tale of intrigue that percolated for much of the summer: A congressman claims the Pentagon ...



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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:56 PM
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6. Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
TOO BAD FOX THIS AIN'T GOING TO CLINTON, HE WAS NEVER TOLD


Wednesday, September 21, 2005


WASHINGTON — Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (search) said Wednesday he wants answers from the Defense Department about Able Danger, a secret military unit that is said to have identified four of the Sept. 11 hijackers more than a year before the terrorist attacks.

Pentagon officials blocked five key witnesses from testifying in the Able Danger (search) hearings on Capitol Hill Wednesday, citing security concerns.

"I think the Department of Defense owes the American people an explanation about what went on here," Specter said. "The American people are entitled to some answers."

The testimony was expected to offer information on the secret military unit and its identification of Mohamed Atta (search) — the lead hijacker during the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) said in written testimony through his attorney that the Pentagon refused to allow him to testify before the committee. His attorney, Mark Zaid, also said that the Pentagon prevented testimony from a defense contractor that he also represents.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169991,00.html


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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:26 PM
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8. Thanks again, SLAD.
Maybe this one will survive the MSM and GOP spin cycles. Knock wood.
:toast:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:48 PM
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7. Recommended. I'm wondering how the data suppression/destruction
that is being exposed now for Able Danger ties in with the other forms of suppression described by Sibel Edmonds. Is this a case-by-case scramble to hide things, or is the organization broader?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:31 PM
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10. I think it was a loosely organized File Scrub, agency by agency.
Tenet did it. Now we have proof Rumsfeld did it. Everyone lied to Congress and the 9/11 Commission without batting an eye.

We really need a Special Prosecutor on this one.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:40 PM
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11. To add to that Tenet seems ready to defend himself when
that CIA report comes out blaming him.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 03:40 PM
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12. Read the FBI IG's report. It's extremely damning of Tenet and
Cofer Black, the chief of the CIA CounterTerrorism Center (CTC) at the time the Agency "lost track of" al-Midhar and al-Hazmi as they left the Kuala Lumpur planning summit. They entered the US at LAX on January 15, 2000 on a flight from Bangkok.

The FBI IG report states that at that time, Black ordered the Bureau liaison to withhold a cable he was preparing to send to the Bureau's national security unit HQ in NY. Had that cable gone out in early 2000, the FBI would have initiated surveillance over the two, and they would have led the FBI to the others.

Of course, Tenet was very interested in the Kuala Lumpur summit and the pair, and the 2002 Congressional Joint Intelligence Committee report says he was briefed twice about this. It is unlikely that Black would have spiked the cable without Tenet's knowledge.

This is what the record shows happened. After being tracked to and from Kuala Lumpur, the pair were let in, and placed under third-party control by Saudi intelligence, an agent of which met with al-Hazmi and al-Midhar upon their arrival at LAX and provided housing in San Diego under the watchful eyes of another Saudi agent, who was also an FBI informant. Meanwhile, Mossad got wind of the operation, and was also watching Atta. Whichever US intel agency or agencies was responsible for ongoing surveillance, perhaps the CIA, perhaps the DIA, and likely some higher-ups at FBI, gathered information through consensual monitoring (bugging of willing informants) to avoid having to obtain FISA warrants.

For some reason, in the summer of 2001, Tenet's hair caught fire. Something had happened -- informants may have stopped communicating with their controllers -- that really worried the CIA Dirctor. Bush got his PDB on 8/6/01. In all likelihood, Tenet tried to talk the President into quietly rolling up the UBL cells, but for whatever reason, Bush refused to issue the arrest orders.

If you want to know more, the whole story is laid out in my Crimes of 9/11 series: http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/03/01_crimes.html (2 parts);
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0302/S00091.htm (4-part series).

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:28 PM
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9. Heard about this from a republican at work
Granted the repuke is now anti-Bush and won't admit to voting for it.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 09:53 PM
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14. We need advanced search back
I posted information about AD1 a few days ago, maybe when it comes back a good gatherer like NBH can pull all the related posts together.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:12 PM
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15. AD not sent to 9/11 comm. means someone disobeyed Bush's orders.
...or that Bush himself ordered the data held.

Bush set up the commission, and Bush is commander in cheif of the armed forces.

Someone undermined the commander-in-chief.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:16 PM
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16. Zelikow
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