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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:16 PM
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Bush Is Off The Wagon......

I dont know if this has been posted here on the DU but...

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/63426

He's hitting the Jack Daniels HARD.......How Christian....guess Jesus isnt enough for him anymore.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:18 PM
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1. wow so bush was having an affair with Jim Beam
does that mean he is gay also?


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Polethebear Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:19 PM
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2. sincker,,,,,sincker,,,,
Laugh
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:19 PM
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3. christians are allowed to drink
how is falling off the wagon (which he never really got on) un-christian?

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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:21 PM
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5. Flip-flop.
I was on the wagon before I fell off.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:21 PM
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7. Christ's first miracle was changing water into wine. . .
so I don't think Jesus has a problem with a little drink now and then.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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10. Christians are allowed to drink--"A little wine for your stomach's sake"
as St. Paul said. But we are not allowed to get drunk. BIG no-no. Even worse is saying you are a Christian when it's not really true. Not making judgements here, just saying, as Jesus said in Matthew, "Wisdom is proved right by her actions." Or--can't think of the reference right now, but there's the other verse that says "By their fruits you shall know them (followers of Christ)."

Just what I learned from 50-odd years in the evangelical-fundamentalist arena.

Tired Old Cynic
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:33 PM
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18. Not all Christians. Not Southern Baptists, for instance
They drink grape juice at their services. I've asked how they could do this if the Bible is to be taken literally, as they claim, since Jesus drank wine. They never answer me. Not even a grunt or a sigh. Not anything. :shrug:
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:53 PM
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30. oh easy one
I remember what they used to tell me (I grew up Southern Baptist) - that was UNFERMENTED WINE - not fermented wine. So really just "grape juice" - but you know translations and all - well they called it "wine" but it wasn't an alcoholic wine....

(Yes, they can twist their heads around backwards.)
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:05 PM
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33. LOL! So it all depends on the selected translation, then?
So much for the literal word! :rofl:
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:41 PM
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38. Because the wine in the bible days was different than wine today.
At least, that is what the pastor and sunday school teachers told me when I asked about it.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:34 PM
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19. Well, the Baptists that I know
say that it is a sin to drink alcohol.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:20 PM
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34. Do you know why Baptists won't have sex while standing up?
Because it looks like they're dancing with each other.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:07 AM
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41. I heard that joke
30 years ago. It's still funny!

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:06 AM
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40. The Baptists *I* know
think it's a sin to GET CAUGHT drinking alcohol!

:rofl:

I babysat Deacon's kids in highschool, there would ALWAYS be a bottle of something hidden in the back of the cupboard or under the sink.

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:32 AM
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48. "Back Door" Baptists
When I was in the seminary (Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, KY -- back when it was "liberal"), we used to refer to Back Door Baptists -- the ones who used the back door at the liquor store so they wouldn't be seen.

Bake
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:59 AM
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46. It is the lying about it that is not Christian
In fact the Lying about everything right down to "That Lump in the Bed"
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:20 PM
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4. Oh, joy, more drama.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 05:27 PM by MissMarple
:crazy:

edit: Went out for popcorn. :popcorn:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:21 PM
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6. This story is B.S.
The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:24 PM
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14. As I said on another thread...
That ENABLER talk. Every alcoholic needs excuses.
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:22 PM
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8. i HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS AN ALCOHOLIC
and he says that his therapist says it is important to stay away from high stress situations that could cause a return to the bottle. I would imagine that just being President is high stress enough and the Iraq War and Katrina only add to the problem that is topped off with falling approval ratings.
Seems to me that Bush could save himself and us a lot of future grief by packing his bag and going home NOW. Then we can all watch as stress does its number on Cheney.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:24 PM
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13. I am an alcoholic, sober twenty years last month. Recovery
requires "rigorous honesty" so guess where that leaves the chimp?
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:49 PM
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24. Happy Birthday (to me, too!)
20 years is a wonderful milestone. I have been sober for 14 years today!

And you're right, no way is * working a program. He may not be drinking, but he's not "sober."
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:22 PM
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9. It begs the question...was he ever really ON the wagon?
That whole "I just quit drinking after almost going "mano a mano with dear old dad" story he has been pushing...without ever, ever acknowledging that, if true, he would be an alcoholic. I've never bought that crap.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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11. I have a real problem taking the National Enquirer seriously!
Not exactly what one would consider a reputable source.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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12. How we know this story is bogus ....
...besides the obvious, of course. The article says -- or rather quotes "sources" as saying -- that Bush is drinking again because he's so distressed by Katrina and by the deaths of American soldiers in Iraq. He takes every death personally. Uh-huh.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:26 PM
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15. Puke, they so must play both sides of the fence
like the co=dependent nation we are, they echo it by excusing his behavior:

"The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:29 PM
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16. Oh, horse hockey
"The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained."

Yeah, so affected that he won't even bother to say a soldier's name. So affected he acts like he's at a party when he's speaking to the soldier's family. Riiiight. :eyes:

"And now with the worst domestic crisis in his administration over Katrina, you pray his drinking doesn't go out of control."

No, no, I don't.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:30 PM
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17. Great source,
and such credible reporting!

Or not.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:36 PM
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20. Yeah. I dismissed the stories about Clinton and an intern when
they first started showing up in the Enquirer. And they certainly never panned out ... .
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:42 PM
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22. Right. Forgot about that.
Okay, everything in there is true true true.

How about the Weekly World News, too?

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/science/61502
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:49 PM
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25. They do sometimes print the truth. During the Clinton-Dole election
they were the only ones to print articles about Doles checkered past of using his top aides to raise illegal funds for his campaIgns.

Is this the truth? Who knows? But it can't be dismissed out of hand any more than I should have dismissed the early Clinton-Monica stories.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:55 PM
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28. The problem is,
we never know what the truth is in these rags without going back in hindsight and checking.

To be honest, I would not be the slightest bit surprised if Boosh was boozing again. It is probably likely, IMO. If we ever find out that he is, we can remember back when the Enquirer was right.

:toast:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:39 PM
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21. I don't believe anything in the National Enquirer.
Sorry, I'm just not a Man in Black.

But it better not be true despite being there -- a lush with his finger on the button. Yikes!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:23 PM
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29. the enquirer was the first to report on rush's hillbilly heroin addiction
for whatever that's worth.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:35 AM
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44. It doesn't matter whether *we* believe it.
The Enquirer is widely read in the Red States and in rural areas. A lot of people believe what they read there, just like they believe Rush and Fox. I think this is a body blow to the Chimp, true or not.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:43 PM
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23. junior told us he didn't drink any more, he didn't tell us he didn't
drink any less.
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enigami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:50 PM
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26. I don't Blame Him
I took a few shots myself during Katrina, and will be doing so again for Rita
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:54 PM
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27. What was he drinking at the UN?
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:58 PM
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31. That's Tony Blair's soul in liquid form.
It keeps Bush perky.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:31 PM
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35. rofl!
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:00 PM
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32. They Better Be Careful
they never caught the Anthrax mailer....piss Georgie off and who knows what could happen....
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:36 PM
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36. W's a druggie, Cheney's anamatronic (or Borg), Frist is the Tin Man (heart
heartless), Rumsfeld's brains are all straw, all we need here is a cute dog and some munchkins, and this might make a great cast for a classic children's movie.

Someone call the rapturists: We need some flying monkeys. And throw out Rove's crystal ball: The hurricane's gonna win this round, too.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:38 PM
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37. W looks wasted all the time. How can it not be true?
The last Crawford drinking binge lasted all summer.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:48 PM
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39. I misread this
as originally "Bush is off the Weapon......" and the image that flooded
me was of him leaving the room where the red button sits... of him going
somewhere else, so that the world is safe from a criminal with access
to nuclear weapons. And rather, a dry drunk crashing more value out of
the collective economies of the world to the tune of trillions of dollars,
destroying value and a rate unprecedented in all history of western
culture. By him, the vandals who sacked rome were but minor notes
next to bush's shakespearean tragedy.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:25 AM
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42. I think this emminently deniable story is floated to "humanize" him.
The "insider" says he's drinking because the deaths in Iraq and the tragedies at home affect him deeply? I don't think so.

Even flaws may be manufactured for spin.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:26 AM
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43. That story has "Rove" all over it...
looks like they're trying to drum up sympathy for old chimpy and give him an excuse and an out for his hideous behavior before,during and after Katrina. Of course the freepers will eat it up.

Excuses, excuses!

:puke:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:59 AM
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45. I still maintain, that moron* was drunk during the first debate.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:00 AM
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47. How could you miss it?
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 11:00 AM by tasteblind
There's only an all caps titled post with 400+ replies bouncing around GD.
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