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Wed Sep-21-05 05:16 PM
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Bush Is Off The Wagon...... |
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I dont know if this has been posted here on the DU but... http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/63426He's hitting the Jack Daniels HARD.......How Christian....guess Jesus isnt enough for him anymore.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:18 PM
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1. wow so bush was having an affair with Jim Beam |
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does that mean he is gay also?
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:19 PM
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2. sincker,,,,,sincker,,,, |
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:19 PM
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3. christians are allowed to drink |
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how is falling off the wagon (which he never really got on) un-christian?
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:21 PM
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I was on the wagon before I fell off.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:21 PM
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7. Christ's first miracle was changing water into wine. . . |
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so I don't think Jesus has a problem with a little drink now and then.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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10. Christians are allowed to drink--"A little wine for your stomach's sake" |
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as St. Paul said. But we are not allowed to get drunk. BIG no-no. Even worse is saying you are a Christian when it's not really true. Not making judgements here, just saying, as Jesus said in Matthew, "Wisdom is proved right by her actions." Or--can't think of the reference right now, but there's the other verse that says "By their fruits you shall know them (followers of Christ)."
Just what I learned from 50-odd years in the evangelical-fundamentalist arena.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:33 PM
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18. Not all Christians. Not Southern Baptists, for instance |
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They drink grape juice at their services. I've asked how they could do this if the Bible is to be taken literally, as they claim, since Jesus drank wine. They never answer me. Not even a grunt or a sigh. Not anything. :shrug:
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Wed Sep-21-05 06:53 PM
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I remember what they used to tell me (I grew up Southern Baptist) - that was UNFERMENTED WINE - not fermented wine. So really just "grape juice" - but you know translations and all - well they called it "wine" but it wasn't an alcoholic wine....
(Yes, they can twist their heads around backwards.)
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:05 PM
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33. LOL! So it all depends on the selected translation, then? |
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So much for the literal word! :rofl:
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:41 PM
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38. Because the wine in the bible days was different than wine today. |
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At least, that is what the pastor and sunday school teachers told me when I asked about it.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:34 PM
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19. Well, the Baptists that I know |
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say that it is a sin to drink alcohol.
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:20 PM
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34. Do you know why Baptists won't have sex while standing up? |
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Because it looks like they're dancing with each other.
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:07 AM
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30 years ago. It's still funny!
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:06 AM
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40. The Baptists *I* know |
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think it's a sin to GET CAUGHT drinking alcohol!
:rofl:
I babysat Deacon's kids in highschool, there would ALWAYS be a bottle of something hidden in the back of the cupboard or under the sink.
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Thu Sep-22-05 11:32 AM
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When I was in the seminary (Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, KY -- back when it was "liberal"), we used to refer to Back Door Baptists -- the ones who used the back door at the liquor store so they wouldn't be seen.
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:59 AM
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46. It is the lying about it that is not Christian |
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In fact the Lying about everything right down to "That Lump in the Bed"
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:20 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 05:27 PM by MissMarple
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edit: Went out for popcorn. :popcorn:
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:21 PM
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The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:24 PM
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14. As I said on another thread... |
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That ENABLER talk. Every alcoholic needs excuses.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:22 PM
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8. i HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS AN ALCOHOLIC |
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and he says that his therapist says it is important to stay away from high stress situations that could cause a return to the bottle. I would imagine that just being President is high stress enough and the Iraq War and Katrina only add to the problem that is topped off with falling approval ratings. Seems to me that Bush could save himself and us a lot of future grief by packing his bag and going home NOW. Then we can all watch as stress does its number on Cheney.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:24 PM
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13. I am an alcoholic, sober twenty years last month. Recovery |
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requires "rigorous honesty" so guess where that leaves the chimp?
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:49 PM
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24. Happy Birthday (to me, too!) |
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20 years is a wonderful milestone. I have been sober for 14 years today!
And you're right, no way is * working a program. He may not be drinking, but he's not "sober."
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:22 PM
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9. It begs the question...was he ever really ON the wagon? |
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That whole "I just quit drinking after almost going "mano a mano with dear old dad" story he has been pushing...without ever, ever acknowledging that, if true, he would be an alcoholic. I've never bought that crap.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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11. I have a real problem taking the National Enquirer seriously! |
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Not exactly what one would consider a reputable source.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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12. How we know this story is bogus .... |
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...besides the obvious, of course. The article says -- or rather quotes "sources" as saying -- that Bush is drinking again because he's so distressed by Katrina and by the deaths of American soldiers in Iraq. He takes every death personally. Uh-huh.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:26 PM
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15. Puke, they so must play both sides of the fence |
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like the co=dependent nation we are, they echo it by excusing his behavior:
"The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:29 PM
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"The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained."
Yeah, so affected that he won't even bother to say a soldier's name. So affected he acts like he's at a party when he's speaking to the soldier's family. Riiiight. :eyes:
"And now with the worst domestic crisis in his administration over Katrina, you pray his drinking doesn't go out of control."
No, no, I don't.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:30 PM
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and such credible reporting!
Or not.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:36 PM
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20. Yeah. I dismissed the stories about Clinton and an intern when |
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they first started showing up in the Enquirer. And they certainly never panned out ... .
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:42 PM
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22. Right. Forgot about that. |
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Okay, everything in there is true true true. How about the Weekly World News, too? http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/science/61502
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:49 PM
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25. They do sometimes print the truth. During the Clinton-Dole election |
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they were the only ones to print articles about Doles checkered past of using his top aides to raise illegal funds for his campaIgns.
Is this the truth? Who knows? But it can't be dismissed out of hand any more than I should have dismissed the early Clinton-Monica stories.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:55 PM
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we never know what the truth is in these rags without going back in hindsight and checking.
To be honest, I would not be the slightest bit surprised if Boosh was boozing again. It is probably likely, IMO. If we ever find out that he is, we can remember back when the Enquirer was right.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:39 PM
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21. I don't believe anything in the National Enquirer. |
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Sorry, I'm just not a Man in Black.
But it better not be true despite being there -- a lush with his finger on the button. Yikes!
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Wed Sep-21-05 06:23 PM
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29. the enquirer was the first to report on rush's hillbilly heroin addiction |
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for whatever that's worth.
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:35 AM
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44. It doesn't matter whether *we* believe it. |
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The Enquirer is widely read in the Red States and in rural areas. A lot of people believe what they read there, just like they believe Rush and Fox. I think this is a body blow to the Chimp, true or not.
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:43 PM
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23. junior told us he didn't drink any more, he didn't tell us he didn't |
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:50 PM
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I took a few shots myself during Katrina, and will be doing so again for Rita
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Wed Sep-21-05 05:54 PM
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27. What was he drinking at the UN? |
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Wed Sep-21-05 06:58 PM
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31. That's Tony Blair's soul in liquid form. |
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:00 PM
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32. They Better Be Careful |
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they never caught the Anthrax mailer....piss Georgie off and who knows what could happen....
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:36 PM
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36. W's a druggie, Cheney's anamatronic (or Borg), Frist is the Tin Man (heart |
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heartless), Rumsfeld's brains are all straw, all we need here is a cute dog and some munchkins, and this might make a great cast for a classic children's movie.
Someone call the rapturists: We need some flying monkeys. And throw out Rove's crystal ball: The hurricane's gonna win this round, too.
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:38 PM
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37. W looks wasted all the time. How can it not be true? |
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The last Crawford drinking binge lasted all summer.
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Wed Sep-21-05 07:48 PM
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as originally "Bush is off the Weapon......" and the image that flooded me was of him leaving the room where the red button sits... of him going somewhere else, so that the world is safe from a criminal with access to nuclear weapons. And rather, a dry drunk crashing more value out of the collective economies of the world to the tune of trillions of dollars, destroying value and a rate unprecedented in all history of western culture. By him, the vandals who sacked rome were but minor notes next to bush's shakespearean tragedy.
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:25 AM
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42. I think this emminently deniable story is floated to "humanize" him. |
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The "insider" says he's drinking because the deaths in Iraq and the tragedies at home affect him deeply? I don't think so.
Even flaws may be manufactured for spin.
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:26 AM
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43. That story has "Rove" all over it... |
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looks like they're trying to drum up sympathy for old chimpy and give him an excuse and an out for his hideous behavior before,during and after Katrina. Of course the freepers will eat it up.
Excuses, excuses!
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Thu Sep-22-05 10:59 AM
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45. I still maintain, that moron* was drunk during the first debate. |
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Thu Sep-22-05 11:00 AM
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47. How could you miss it? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 11:00 AM by tasteblind
There's only an all caps titled post with 400+ replies bouncing around GD.
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