Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

This is sick and needs more attention! (JUST PLAIN EVIL)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:31 PM
Original message
This is sick and needs more attention! (JUST PLAIN EVIL)
I haven't seen this anywhere but the LGBT Forums, so I'm going to post it here. Read it all: http://pageoneq.com/news/2005/ga_iranian_beaten_092005.html



Then, says Amir, the torture began. “There was a metal chair in the middle of the room -- they put a gas flame under the chair, and made me sit on it as the metal seat got hotter and hotter. They threatened to send me to an army barracks where all the soldiers were going to rape me. There was a soft drink bottle sitting on a table -- Ali Panahi told one of the other basiji to take the bottle and shove it up my as, screaming, ‘This will teach you not to want any more cock!’ I was so afraid of sitting in that metal chair as it got hotter and hotter that I confessed. Then they brought out my file, and told me that I was a ‘famous faggot’ in Shiraz. They beat me up so badly that I passed out, and was thrown, unconscious, into a holding cell.

"When I came to, I saw there were several dozen other gay guys in the cell with me. One of them told me that, after they had taken him in, they beat him and forced him to set up dates with people through chat rooms -- and each one of those people had been arrested, those were the other people in that cell with me.”

“We were eventually all taken to court, and cross-examined. The judge sentenced four of us, including me, to public flogging. The news was printed all over the newspapers that a group of homosexuals had been arrested, with our names. I got 100 lashes -- I passed out before the 100 lashes were over. When I woke up, my arms and legs were so numb that I fell over when they picked me up from the platform on which I’d been lashed. They had told me that, if I screamed, they will beat me even harder -- so I was biting my arms so hard, to keep from screaming, that I left deep teeth wounds in my own arms.”

Read it all here: http://pageoneq.com/news/2005/ga_iranian_beaten_092005.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:32 PM
Response to Original message
1. It was posted here before but I don't see why we shouldn't talk about it
again, because as you say it is just plain EVIL. I can't imagine treating another human being... or any animal... that way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
2. This is terrible
The Sufis I know are tolerant of gays and lesbians-in fact, many Sufi initiates I know ARE gays or lesbians!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
3. So that is the world they are making for there children.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
4. Does anyone know what can be done?
Is there *ANYTHING* that could be done to help folks like Amir? Even if they were smuggled out of Iran (or other countries with similar treatment - and there are lot of them) they risk being deported back to the country likely to face death.

Is there anything that anyone can do? Is there a country somewhere that offers safe asylum?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
5. I wish religious fanatics would jump into a room and kill each other off..
and leave innocent people alone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. So true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. No s**t. Let's let them have it out on the moon. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Me, too. This is sickening. what the hell is the matter with people??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
6. I wish you had given a warning.
I specifically did not look at the pictures posted in GLBT because I knew they would upset me beyond belief.

I was upset enough by the story itself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:42 PM
Response to Original message
10. Weird how they want to cure his homosexuality by having him gang raped.
And by shoving a bottle up his ass. Seems to me that they are gayer than he ever will be. It's sad that ridiculous superstition leads to such horrible events. This is just fucking sick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. Actually, that would be incorrect.
You see it is not the act of having sex with someone of the same sex they find satisfying. It is the domination and humiliation.

Besides that, being gay is much more than just who you sleep with - that is so insignificant as to not matter. Anyone can sleep with someone else, that doesn't make them gay. A "straight" man can sleep with another man - that doesn't make him gay. Being gay is the need/want to be in a relationship with someone of the same sex, someone who wants to share the rest of their life with someone of the same sex. It actually has very little to actually do with sex in and of itself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. Well Said, Sir
You are certainly correct in that analysis, and have said something both very true and almost universally overlooked in discussion of this matter.

"What a world, what a world...."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. I agree! What an utter eye-opener for me. And I'm certain its true.
"almost universally overlooked"...I had, in all honesty, until this post. Homosexuality has very little to do with sex! Just as little to do with sex as heterosexual relationships...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. I once read that in muslim countries
It is very frequent for men to have sex with other men, but they do not consider themselves gay. For them, you're gay if you want to have a relationship with another man.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:43 AM
Response to Original message
12. Oh my gosh
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 12:44 AM by FreedomAngel82
:cry:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:34 AM
Response to Original message
16. Very Shameless Bump
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. No Need For Shame, Sir
This deserves wide circulation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Bump
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:02 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC