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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:26 PM
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Is It True? Are "They" Pulling Katrina Kids out of Public School
and putting them in "christian" schools?

i think mike malloy just mentioned something about this. does anyone know? are there any articles on this?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:30 PM
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1. He's talking about the vouchers.
I don't think anyone's "pulling" them out, but Bush is wanting to give them vouchers to enroll in private schools. A small shade of difference, and still evil, IMO.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:35 PM
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2. Snellings, his dept of education appointee
is defending the use of vouchers for private education BUT saying the public education budget needs to be cut to accomodate these vouchers. What good is private schooling vouchers going to do in rural America?

Bush and his groupees should be impeached.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:46 PM
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3. So, we lose Title I funding to pay for private school vouchers.
And at the same time, we have to continue to comply with onerous NCLB regulations that require us to hire non-district private tutoring firms (stacked with Bush cronies) to provide one-on-one tutoring. Which is TOTALLY against federal regulations for US to do UNTIL we fall into the sanction phase of NCLB. It's as nonsensical as the Katrina response.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:52 PM
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4. New Orleans was 1/3 private
Alot of kids went to Catholic School there, so they ought to be allowed to do the same thing wherever they are now. Catholic schools in Louisiana have used state or federal funds for non-religious books, etc., for a long long time. Maybe always. I'm sure lots of families are baffled about the way schools work in other cities. Might not be anything sinister at all.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:35 PM
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5. here's what kennedy said about it....
"Senator Kennedy publicly criticized aid for private schools yesterday in a statement, saying: "This is not the time for a partisan political debate on vouchers." Despite the high percentage of New Orleans students who attend private school, Kennedy said that "we need to focus on rebuilding the public school systems which are the cornerstones of the Gulf Coast communities and economies."

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39748
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:45 PM
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7. I agree. My sisters withdrew her kids fom Catholic schools
because of what she perceived as high enrollment and low results. They also did far better in public school and my neice was diagnosed with a hearing disability by the staff of public schools. She was finally given help.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:27 AM
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9. The OP doesn't refer to that
It says they're pulling kids out of public school, to which I pointed out that kids going to Catholic school wouldn't be all that unusual for New Orleans students. It doesn't mean any kids are specifically being pulled out of public schools for the pure purpose of implementing a religious experiment.

In any event, Ted Kennedy is saying that, considering the need, we need to focus on public schools first. Seems reasonable as well, the need is overhwelming. But it also seems that Catholic school is a part of New Orleans heritage, and shouldn't be lost in all of this either.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:25 AM
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8. Umm, why doesn't the Catholic Church put up the money for
the displaced Catholic School students from Katrina? Seems obvious to me. :shrug:

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:29 AM
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10. Sounds reasonable too
I'm just saying the way Catholic school in some very Catholic cities have worked for a long time in the US, that's all.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:42 PM
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6. Read this article at Kos...might be what he was talking about.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:36 AM
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11. they are forcing the voucher issue
by putting hurricane kids into "private schools" (meaning buble thumper indotrination facilities) and calling for this to be paid for by vouchers.

So, if a Dem opposes the vouchers, they will be accused of not supporting schooling for the hurricane kids. If they DO support this manouver, they are supporting school vouchers.
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