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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:09 PM
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Bush: protesters "wrong"; pullout would repeat "mistakes" that led to 9-11

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Bush: protesters "wrong"; pullout would repeat "mistakes" that led to 9-11


PENTAGON President Bush says an abrupt pullout from Iraq would repeat what he calls the "costly mistakes" that led to Nine-Eleven.

Speaking as protesters gather in Washington for a weekend march, the president said anti-war activists are well-intentioned -- but wrong.

He says withdrawing from Iraq would allow terrorists "to claim an historic victory over the United States."

Bush spoke after meeting with top Pentagon commanders. He said terrorists in Iraq are testing America's willingness to defend itself, and that if the nation fails that test, the consequences "would be enormous."

Bush said terrorists had been led to doubt America's courage after the U-S response to the Iran hostage crisis, the Beirut barracks bombings and other attacks.

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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:10 PM
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1. Why are we there?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:16 PM
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13. I'll tell you if you promise not to tell anyone.
1. Oil (for the Big Oil CEO's paychecks and options: certainly not for the consumers)

2. Taxpayers' money (for the MIC CEO's paychecks and options too...)


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:47 PM
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24. We're there to help Haliburton make their legal bills
-- remember all that nasty asbestos? Good news, now they can work NO so we may see a pullout sooner than later.

And, so long New Orleans.
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iwalktheline Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:11 PM
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2. allowing the bushturd to steal the election in 2004
was the only mistake likely to repeat 9-11
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:48 PM
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25. Yep
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:11 PM
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3. The same, old, tired arguments.
"The consequences would be enormous?" Enormously good, perhaps.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:12 PM
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4. He criticized Saint Reagan?
Damn, he must be drunk then.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:12 PM
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5. So he's blaming the US for the terrorists?
Why does he hate America?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:12 PM
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6. George calling anyone "wrong" is incredible,
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 02:13 PM by Kurovski
as in "lacking credibility".

He has been demonstrably wrong on too many issues.

I feel his pain.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:12 PM
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7. Has he ever studied the history of the Middle East, as regards
the relationships of local governments with Western oil companies?.. (that's a rhetorical question, of course)
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:13 PM
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8. He is the "mistake" that led to 9/11...
The biggest mistake is having this delusional fuck-wad for president.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:13 PM
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9. If he would look at what led to 9/11, he'd find peace
protestors had nothing to do with it. Bin Laden said he was angry with the US because of our troops stationed on Saudi soil, our close ties to corrupt regimes like the House of Saud and the appearance of favoritism of Israel. Don't think peace activists caused any of it.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:18 PM
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16. Now you're getting somewhere.
The things America needs to do to end terrorism have nothing to do with killing people, and the only "message" we would be sending by withdrawal and recompense is that we understand the errors and wrongs we've committed against the Middle East.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:13 PM
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10. Which mistake was that, not paying attention to the memo that said
"Bin Laden planing to attack te USA"? Right, sure thing el presidente butt wipe.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:14 PM
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11. The guy's a fucking idiot.
Hey George, you moran, 911 happened because YOU were sitting around with your thumb up your ass instead of doing your job.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:15 PM
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12. Huh? Costly mistakes?
Costly mistakes that led to 9/11. Is he talking about his admin cutting the Able Danger program several months before 9/11?

Mr. Prez. you need to look in the mirror! You are the costly mistake.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:16 PM
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14. The terrorists really began to doubt America's courage
when bush ran around after 9-11 bragging about how he was going to "get" bin laden "dead or alive" and then couldn't make good on his boasts.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:18 PM
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15. Channeluing General Westmoreland, who said the
same thing....

Channeling Sec Def McNamara who argued that dominoes would fall

....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:19 PM
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17. And Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon said we couldn't pull out of
Vietnam, too.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:23 PM
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18. Yep. And that one was just for the
taxpayers' money (for the MIC CEO's paychecks because Big Oil wasn't really involved in that ugly one).
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:25 PM
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19. "the "costly mistakes" that led to Nine-Eleven."
Hmmmm.... you mean it would lead to Bush being president? I don't get it.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:34 PM
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20. Repugs are so good at coming up with no win situations
...except for themselves and Haliburton...
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:41 PM
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21. I see
So the new reason we are in Iraq is to prove to terrorist that we will defend ourselves. In what way is the war in Iaq a war of self defense? Only in a very, very troubled persons mind does that make sense.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:43 PM
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22. His insistence on playing golf after getting the Aug. 6 warning
led to 9/11.

What a retard.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:46 PM
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23. How can they not doubt our courage with this THING in the White House?
He's his own worst enemy, a walking illustration of everything that is wrong in this country. It will take years for us to live down this shame.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:56 PM
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26. Remedial school for pet goat reading simians:
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 02:58 PM by JHB
Why would an "abrupt pullout" bee wrong? Because it would leave the impression we were chansed out by radicals. Of course, if we just announced a phased withdrawl plan, then the trrrrrsts would just "wait us out". So according to Incurious George, we can't actually leave.

Now, given that part of what fuels the violence is the perception that we won't leave, this is a bad thing. Which means an announced withdrawl schedule is needed, and it is imperative that we stick to that schedule no matter what.

If we don't leave according to a timetable of our choosing, ANY withdrawl will be interpreted as "we were chased out".

Not that this has anything to do with why Chim-Chim and the PNAC gallery really want, but it's best to cut off their excuses.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:59 PM
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27. huh?
You mean all those mistakes that not one person was held accountable for? Except the Iraqi people that is and 1900 dead american soldiers.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 03:27 PM
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28. bush the moron is a major mistake that led to 911
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 03:51 PM
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29. If George says it is wrong, then it must be right!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 04:42 PM
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30. That's what they said about Viet Nam - But, "Peace with Honor" prevailed
* Johnson, March 15, 1967: "America is committed to the defense of South Vietnam until an honorable peace can be negotiated." Despite the obstacles to victory, the president said, "We shall stay the course."

Bush on Aug. 3, 2005: "We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. And the job is this: We'll help the Iraqis develop a democracy."

* Johnson on Aug. 16, 1967, on South Vietnam's government: "Our nation was not born easily. There were times in those years of the 18th century when it seemed as if we might not be born at all. Given that background, we ought not to be astonished that this struggle in Vietnam continues."

Bush, on Aug. 27, 2005: "Like our own nation's founders over two centuries ago, the Iraqis are grappling with difficult issues, such as the role of the federal government. What is important is that Iraqis are now addressing these issues through debate and discussion -- not at the barrel of a gun."

* Johnson, April 6, 1967: "Be assured that the death of your son will have meaning," he Johnson told the parents of a posthumous recipient of the Medal of Honor. "For I give you also my solemn pledge that our country will persist -- and will prevail -- in the cause for which your boy died."

Bush on Aug. 24: "These brave men and women gave their lives for a cause that is just and necessary for the security of our country, and now we will honor their sacrifice by completing their mission."

Find any similarities...?

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