Seen the light
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:15 PM
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Does anybody know if any US soldier has shot a civilian on purpose? |
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In Iraq I mean? I tried google but am not having much luck.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:17 PM
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1. There was that jackass that threw a couple of Iraqis into the Tigress. |
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I think they were wounded and one or more drowned.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:19 PM
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2. I'm sure it's not regular practice |
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Some journalists have been fired upon and other Americans locked up sometimes for this or that.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:21 PM
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3. Archives are down - but yes |
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all these night raids they do, with Iraqis having guns in their homes, people try to defend themselves when soldiers break in and wind up dead. Independent media have also been killed by soldiers, so yes, US soldiers have shot civilians on purpose.
Half the people shot near check points have also been innocent civilians! Sickening! These soldiers will have maajor PTSD over this kinda crap.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:22 PM
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4. Fallujah had alot of civilian casualties |
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and demonstrators have been shot though I don't know if it was soldiers or Blackwater (concerning demonstrators). But the answer is yes, sometimes. War and occupation are like that.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:23 PM
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If the US soldier wasn't in Iraq in the first place, the civilian would still be alive. Remember, the old saying from Vietnam:
Q: How do you know if the man you shot was a communist? A: He's dead.
For the sake of argument, let's say that a soldier did shoot an un-armed civilian "on purpose." Do you really think he would go to his commanding officer and admit it?
If you were the commanding officer, would you report it?
The first wave of Iraqi vets are starting to hit the streets in the United States. I suggest you attend a local meeting of "Veterans for Peace," they'll tell you what you what you want to to know.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:25 PM
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7. Oh I was just responding to a Freeper friend of mine elsewhere |
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I had remembered the thing about the Tigris drowning. That's all it was, I wasn't trying to make a political statement here or something tonight. But thanks anyway. :)
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:24 PM
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6. I know there was a british soldier who shot a little girl |
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Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 08:26 PM by jim3775
I think they charged him with murder. Edit Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3705903.stm
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:27 PM
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8. You need to define "civilian" very precisely. In one sense, all |
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"insurgents" are "civilians". :shrug:
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:28 PM
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9. Sorry, an "unarmed" civilian |
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:40 PM
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10. I doubt if you will find a reported incident where a " US soldier has |
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killed a civilian on purpose."
There have been many unarmed civilians killed by U.S. troops but I believe they were all either collateral or misidentification.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:54 PM
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14. That's an excellent point! |
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:42 PM
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11. Some groups have counted 125,000 dead civilians in Iraq since |
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the invasion. There are lots of soldiers who have said they are shooting civilians because they can't tell the good folks from the bad ones. Then there are the soldiers shooting people just for the fun of it, some of the videos have appeared on the internet.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:43 PM
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12. Mazen Dana was an unarmed civilian |
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He was a well know war journalist and cameraman. He was shot in cold blood while working outside of Abu Ghraib back in the Aug, 2003.
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Thu Sep-22-05 08:50 PM
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13. every time they drop a bomb |
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So, to drop a "precision" bomb is "on purpose", and kills thousands of civilians. But because the bomb might also kill a baddie, then the civilians are collateral damage and the military is exhonorated. And likewise, all the people who were killed in the world trade center were collateral damage and OBL did not "mean" to kill civilians.
When on thin ice, don't jump up and down. ;-)
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