If there is a mass arrest in DC (advice)

[amerikat]

The police tactic will be to grab individual protesters from behind. There will be two cops for each protester. one on each arm. They will escort you to a bus. Get on the bus. It will be guarded by a singular(and very scared) new police recruit.

About sixty detainees will be on the bus with you(work together).

All buses have escape routes built in. Use this to your advantage.

On each window on the bus is printed instructions to get out of the bus in an emergency."IN CASE OF EMERGENCY,KICK OUT WINDOW AT BOTTOM" This means to lay back on the seat and kick the window as hard as you can. The window will then be open(hinged at the top but open on the bottom). Time to escape and get back to the protest.

When the protest folks start jumping from the windows. the doors will most likely open also. If that doesn't happen automaticly....just ask the bus driver to "open it please"..the drivers will be hires that understand your plight.

Best wishes to you all.

Amerikat

[leveymg]

1. But, try to do it with your hands bound behind you.

This isn't a Cool Hand Luke movie. Good luck in your escape attempt.

Sounds like a way to get the charges escalated from a $50 fine to a felony. Think about the consequences of resisting arrest, attempted escape, destroying gov't property, etc. before you do them.

[Stephanie]

2. recipe for violence

very bad idea - these guys are not fucking around. don't kid yourself that you could pull something like this. it's not the sixties.

[amerikat]

9. The war in Vietnam was ended by people willing to get arrested

So be willing to end this war.....whatever it takes.

[greyl]

11. RIGHT. Trying to escape the bus is stupid and cowardly. nt

[tkmorris]

25. Cowardly?

Might be stupid, might not be, but cowardly it aint.

[amerikat]

13. You have escaped...no charges are filed

get my drift.????

[amerikat]

15. If realites were considered, revolutions would never happen

And we so need a revolution.

[Autumn Colors]

3. I totally disagree with this tactic

To cause something like this will give the cops and RW'ers fodder to say there were "riots" and that the cops were justified in making the arrests.

The best thing is to be totally peaceful and just making your views known. Show that the arrests are UNWARRANTED by NOT being violent. You know the other side will try to spin this to their advantage. Don't give them any material to use in the process.

If there were more time, I'd suggest that everyone rent and watch the movie "Gandhi" before this weekend....

[shraby]

6. Above all, get photos of any violence.

[Mairead]

14. Read what Orwell had to say about Gandhiji's tactics

He pointed out that it only worked because it was the Brits in charge, not the Nazis.

And Alinsky pointed out, using Gandhiji's own writings, that nonviolent passive resistance was a tactic, not a principled act: they had no firearms, and the people had been made so passive that they couldn't even be whipped into action.

I don't say this to condemn nonviolence, but to point out that it's not an all-purpose remedy.

[DerekG]

23. Unfortunately, violence does have its place

It could be argued that John Brown and his nineteen-man army did more to end slavery than the 30-year "moral persuasion" efforts of the pacifistic abolitionists.

"Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" isn't really as crazy as I once thought.

[MsConduct]

4. I believe the only reason they have issued a permit for this march

is so they can arrest and take down a big bunch of good guys. Be Cool and take care you all!
:hi:

[amerikat]

5. I've done it before.......grow a pair......do it.

If you don't fight them they win by default.

edit to add: It is a non violent tactic.

[artemisia1]

7. I fear that we will be under martial law before then, depending upon

what happens with Rita. You bet your life that they will use this as an excuse to hammer our side.

BTW, the resisting arrest and escaping part is BAD advice, both from a legal and a practical perspective. I know your heart, and courage is in the right place, though.

[amerikat]

8. I did not suggest resisting arrest

I suggested escaping so it would not even be on a police record.( They put you on the bus and arrest you at the destination)

[greyl]

10. That "advice" is useless

and is presented with too much certainty.
Plus fearmongering.

[amerikat]

12. It's a proven tactic

I hope it doesn't come to mass arrests, but it's always best to be prepared.

[WilliamPitt]

16. DO NOT GIVE YOUR NAME

When they get you down to central booking with all the others, nobody NOBODY give their name. Use the bureaucracy against them. They can't book you or anyone else if no one gives their name. I have known many, mmany people who have done this en masse, and every time, the whole group gets released. If they can't book you, they can't keep you.

[amerikat]

18. Never saw them before in my life

Me? they never saw me before either..........I swear

[amerikat]

20. If you get of the bus before central booking it's not even relevant

I never got that far. But all manner of arrest should be considered

[shadowknows69]

27. I don't know if they'll play by those rules Will

Good advice but I don't think they'd have a problem in this day and age putting 100 John and Jane Does in a cage. BTW If I happen to find you in the crowds can I have an interview? B-) I'll have a Big Pretty PRESS badge and everything.

[Autumn Colors]

30. Couldn't they just make you turn over your wallet?

Wouldn't you have to surrender your wallet, watch, etc when they put you in jail? They'd only have to look at your license or your ATM card to find out your name.

[ladylibertee]

17. Sweet plan.They just can't take away peoples rights anymore.

[NYC]

19. Are you saying DC cops won't notice people running away from the

bus in handcuffs? NYC cops tend to notice such things.

Also, it is quite a drop to street level with your hands cuffed behind your back. Likely, many people are not in shape to jump out a bus window with their hands tied behind their backs.

[amerikat]

21. I wasn't bound........and if one person can do the Houdini

you will all be released

[amerikat]

22. I can move my bound hands from behind to infront

in mass arrests they don't bind you with the wire tie thing. Just to many to bind.

[Mairead]

24. Buy and hide somewhere you can reach with bound hands

one of those little envelope-slitters that are a razor blade in a protective plastic frame. You've seen them, they have a little plastic pointy bit that you stick into the corner of the envelope so that the blade can then slit it open.

Then, if they manacle you with nylon wire ties, which is the usual, sneakily get out the envelope slitter and you're all halfway free.

[leveymg]

28. Oh great, add carrying a concealed weapon to the charges!

What are you trying to do, give the feds an excuse to say the demonstrators are an armed mob? Think of how the MSM is going to handle that.

This demo is a political action, not a skyjacking. :eyes:

[Mairead]

29. Better go barefoot, then. And leave your belt at home.

Make sure any sign you carry can't give some cop a paper cut.

Better yet--just stay home. In the kitchen, with your hands in plain sight on the table.

[shadowknows69]

26. Or, they'll just start tasering people

I hope not but there seems to have been a lot of taser "tests" going on in the year before this.