Fascist Friday is in full swing!!

[Coexist]

Idiot on C-Span is saying that being Jewish is now thought of as being "automatically a neo-con."

WTF??!

Is that their new talking point? LOL!!!

(on edit - I actually misspelled fascist. How embarrassing!)

[skinfusionz]

1. you didn't get the memo?

It's hate week

[newyawker99]

25. Hi skinfusionz!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[LiberalinNC]

2. Racism at it's best! I didn't know I was a Neo-Con!!!

:silly:

[SheilaT]

3. Boy, did I miss that one.

I know a reasonable number of Jews, and I'd say more of them fall on the liberal part of the spectrum than otherwise.

Even the ones I know who fully support Israel's policies are likely to be liberal in most other areas.

[Coexist]

4. exactly why it was so funny!

Jon Stewart would have a field day with that one.

[acmejack]

5. I was just laughing about that!

Wait until I call my Jewish friends and associates and inform them that they are now Neo-cons. I would only dare do so via phone or letter, because they are going to be pretty upset by their new affiliation. And you know how those Neo-cons are when they get mad...

[TahitiNut]

6. Brian Lamb and Jonah Goldberg

Their shoes and socks are off and they've got their pinkies intertwined under the table. :puke:

[Lerkfish]

7. They've been doing that for a while: they deflect criticism of any

neocon by accusing the critic of being anti-semitic.

it doesn't address the criticism and forces the critic to be totally sidetracked by addressing a false and disgusting accusation that can't be ignored.


just chickenshit debate tactics, that's all. The best defense is to do what I've just done: identify the tactic for what it is and repeat the criticism.

[bunkerbuster1]

11. Agreed, the neocon = Jew bit's been around the block awhile.

As with any talking point, there's a bit of truth to it. Frankly I don't doubt that there's some anti-semitism driving some of the anti-war movement. It's not something I want to ever see or tolerate, myself, but that hardly explains away PNAC and the insane philosophy that Pax Americana will spread "freeance and peeance" around the globe through military clusterfucks.

[JHB]

14. Where is the antisemitism in the antiwar movement?

Criticism of Israel, and more specifically criticism of Israeli right wing and the Likud Party in particular (and neocon close ties to same) does not equate to antisemitism.

[peacetalksforall]

21. Absolutely...it is to crystal clear. If people can't make that

distinction I feel sorry for their lack of cognitive and logical thinking - or I need to be educated in very precise terms how it is anti-semetic to criticize Israel under Sharon.

Sharon and his Likud Party do not represent all Jews. Is being critical of the Rev Moon being anti-North Korean?

I will react when anyone claims that being critical and angry at Israel under Sharon is anti-semetic.

I think the entire world is critical of the U.S. today - but I don't think they are generally critical of the citizens - their criticism is at the policies of a few and our ongoing pomposity and horrible tendency to dictate and manipulate other countries for gain - by a few.

[bunkerbuster1]

26. It's only a teensy part

shadowy, posting anonymously in some newsgroups I lurk in.

I'm not saying it's anything the antiwar movement needs to consciously purge itself of--it really can't, can it? Just saying there are those who loathe the war because they think it's (merely) beneficial to Jews.

A stupid view, but it's out there.

[Coexist]

8. Gee - thanks for the definition of Fascism

fas·cism (fshzm)
n.
1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

[Coexist]

10. Oooh - the Chickenhawk argument has a "tiny point"

"its good to get advice from those who have served"

"openly gays and handicaps (sic) can't have an opinion on wars"

[Hissyspit]

9. It's an older talking point. It really is desparate.

Are you see a re-run of that Goldberg dunce?

[Coexist]

12. Its live - but it could be a re-run.

[JHB]

13. Talking point: "'Neocon' is leftist code-word for 'Jewish conservative'"

Ever since the neocons themselves started drawing fire for their rank incompetence, they've been pushing this meme in order to paint their critics as anti-semites. I've heard a couple of RW talking heads parrot the line. It seems one can't utter the word "neocon" on Fox without that being rattled off.

It's ridiculous, but the Faux-informed like that C-Span caller keep buying.

[underpants]

16. Yep I heard that on Rush's show MONTHS ago

:grr:

[oasis]

15. Lucianne's whiny, chicken hawk spoiled brat speaks about George

McGovern's service in WW2 in a snotty, cavalier manner.

[Coexist]

20. "that's like saying that if you want to go see a lion-tamer,

you have to first be a lion-tamer yourself"

Huh??! Where do these people come from?

[meti57b]

17. oh yeah, sure ... I'm a major big-time neo-con.

[Coexist]

18. more lies about who thought Saddam had WMDs

the same ol' same ol'.

"show us your hand"

"morale in Iraq is very high" - whose???

[oasis]

19. Why I Can't Join the Military. Jonah's a copyrighted chickenhawk.

:eyes:

[tlsmith1963]

22. Funny...That's Not How I Define It

Being *Republican* automatically means you're a neocon. Being Jewish doesn't figure into it at all.

Tammy

[Coexist]

23. they're just trying their old "blame them for what we are and they can't

point out that WE actually do it"

Blame dems for being anti-semetic because we are the rich, white, Christian party.

[sabra]

24. I guess I am now officially a Neo-Con

hey kids....

[atommom]

27. Nooo. That would make Jon Stewart a neocon, and that's just not possible!