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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:37 PM
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After reading evacuation stories I'm beginning to think a motorcycle
is the way to go

IF you don't have kids

It sounds as if people are leaving everything they have to achieve safety and if you are traveling lightly anyway leave the car and get on the bike (if you have one which- I don't)

Has anyone heard about anyone evacuating by motorcycle?
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:38 PM
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1. The Great Escape
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:34 PM
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31. Just don't climb the barbed wire... n/t
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:38 PM
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2. Concept!
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:38 PM
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3. I could have done better on my bicycle
I would have packed my panniers and made it way more than 100 miles in 12 hours, even with heat and hills.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:39 PM
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4. I haven't heard much about motorcycles....
Weaving through traffic might get you hurt with all the angry folks sitting in traffic. You sure couldn't carry much, but it beats being stranded.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:40 PM
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5. I've seen cyclists
weave in and out of a traffic jam. Only think you need to be careful of is traffic starting up and with people getting out of their cars. Bikes, motor or otherwise, are a good idea.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:41 PM
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6. perhaps with a trailer to haul extra gasoline....
But, somehow I don't see my 70 pound Aussie/Lab holding on to me on the back....
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:42 PM
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7. Maybe with a sidecar n/t
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:43 PM
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9. Hey, I've seen a black lab in a sidecar
Wearing goggles, he was. :D
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:06 PM
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26. Black Lab? How about a Holstein?


Supposedly this picture is from Germany. I have no idea whether it's real or not, but it cracks me up everytime I look at it. It does indeed look like a cow-sized sidecar, but I have no idea how he gets the cow into it, or more importantly, WHY?


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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:32 PM
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30. LOL
That is one funny picture. :D
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:36 PM
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33. LOL.. Got Milk? n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:47 PM
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13. Hee, hee....! I've always wanted a side car for my doggie!
Now that would be cool (except not on a 100 degree bumper-to-bumper highway, breathing everyone's exhaust, I imagine...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:08 PM
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27. I hear ya...got 3 largish doggies. Yikes.
:D
Oh, wait, they're HUGH!!!11!!!
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:35 PM
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32. I've rigged up a basket for Belle
Of course, she's only about 25 pounds. LOL! She loves riding in that basket tho... the diva!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 07:03 AM
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41. Good reason to own a dog that fits in a handbag.....
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:42 PM
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8. Might be hard to get around all those people standing around their cars.
Also, some states forbid lane splitting ... but then you just collect as many tickets as it takes to get out of Dodge.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:44 PM
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11. It sounds as if the police/state troopers in Texas were nowhere
to be found anyway in that traffic nightmare
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:50 PM
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15. True ...
but it would still be hard to get around all those open car doors.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:43 PM
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10. Good idea, but you won't get too far without access to gas.
I don't know any exact specs but motorcycles can't hold much gas.
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:51 PM
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16. About 4 - 5 gal. give or take
You can also expect to get at least 40mpg. It's also a lot easy-er to go a bit further off the beaten track to a gas station that's not right off the highway.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:16 PM
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28. Okay. I didn't know they had such high gas mileage.
So they'd probably get you far enough to get away from a hurricane, even if you can't manage to refill along the way. But you're still screwed if anything bigger happens (of course people in cars are screwed even more).
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dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:56 PM
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18. Most M/C have a range of ~120 mi
but you can get aux tanks
http://www.ironbutt.com/about/about.cfm
http://www.sampson-sporttouring.com/fuel-cells.html

or just get a jerrycan and refill when the light comes on.

I'm still waiting for kawasaki to offer this one for sale to the public:

http://www.m1030.com/

96mpg, 400 miles/tank, all-terrain capable, road legal, runs on diesel, kerosene, jet fuel, or biodiesel. Must investigate.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:22 PM
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29. That does sound good.
My SO has been talking about getting a motorcycle for ages now, I'll show him that site. Thanks!
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:45 PM
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35. Yeah, I've heard of those ...
but hadn't really seen them till now. I saw on the History Channel a blip about their new bikes that run on diesel.

Shit, I'd love to have one of those. With that kind of millage I'd use it all the time.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:05 PM
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36. and besides, you're more likely to be able to buy a gallon
here and there from other motorists, as opposed to several gallons for a car. if you paid $20 a gallon, a hundred bucks will still get you far away.
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:46 PM
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12. I saw a pict of a guy ....
who was on a scooter. He also had some pet carriers tied down and his cats inside of them.

I'm sure that the people who are solo and have motorcycles are using them.

I ride one myself and it doesn't bother me when traffic backs up because I can always ride split-lane. You just have to be really careful when you do it. In a situation like that I'm sure you'd get some frustrated asshole that opens his door on you because he's stuck and you're not.

Posted by Bravo411
http://bravo411.blogspot.com
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:03 PM
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23. Where there's a will (and a cycle), there's a way

(this isn't from the evacuation, but rather a regular day in India).

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 07:01 AM
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40. And that is exactly the scooter you want to have!
That is a Bajaj scooter, the Chetak model. Goes fifty-five mph, gets 100-110mpg. I just picked up the last one in a six state area a couple of weeks ago, and let me tell you, the it is a dream of a bike. Nice control, great pick-up from a dead stop(even with a big guy like me), great gas mileage, and cranks up to fifty-five mph. I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking to lower their gas bill.

The old model year is over, and due to high demand many stores have sold out. But the new models come out in Dec, and even sooner in some states. You can find out more here<http://www.bajajusa.com>

If you want a great bike with great gas mileage, get yourself a Bajaj.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:49 PM
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14. I'm keeping my station wagon (no resale value anyway) but
will be getting a Vespa quite soon.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:51 PM
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17. Some slimeballs will try to block you or open doors on you
out of spite. But, after you stop to kill or severely maim them, you should be able to slowly wend your way forward and out of the danger zone. And f*** those who believe that if they can't make forward progress in a traffic jam then you shouldn't be able to, either -- this twisted take on egalitarianism is a view actually held by at least one person I know.

I sure wouldn't be too concerned about local lane-sharing legislation at that point, anyway. As long as I'm not being a dangerous idiot (other than dispatching f***wits in self-defense), any peace officer who tries to run me down for splitting lanes should have his or her badge taken away for failing to attend to more important safety concerns affecting the welfare of temporary residents of the asphalt ghetto.

Even with the least optimistic fuel consumption, the stop-and-go kind, I know my bike would probably get me about 200 miles out of town before running out of gas. That's a pretty good start, and even if price gouging is in full swing at the 195-mile mark the fill's only going to cost a total of $24 at $4 per gallon.

Can't carry too much, though, but that's not necessarily the point to such an exercise.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:56 PM
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19. Thanks for all that information regarding mileage
the point here does seem to be achieving SAFETY;bring your important documents, some credit cards,you can always buy a few items of clothing when you achieve safety.

Big decision is whether to leave or not.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:07 AM
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38. My bike's a high-displacement sport bike, and you'd get even better
gas mileage from a smaller bike, like 250cc or smaller...and a trail or enduro-type bike would be even more handy in terms of handling marginal surfaces. Problem with the smaller bikes is that their gas tanks are usually much smaller, so you may have even lower range than with something like mine.

Actually, if I had the money and lived someplace prone to annual evacuation -- and had no need to carry goods or people/pets beyond what I can put behind me on the bike -- I might consider getting a little street-legal trail bike as an emergency way out of town. The way things are going, though, with potential fuel prices and supply, I soon won't be the only one on my block whose only form of motorized transport has two wheels.

Of course, I agree that a bicycle could be even better, but you're unlikely to get as far as quickly unless things are REALLY bad in traffic...and if they're that bad, they're not likely to be especially bicycle-friendly, either.

Rocket packs would be good...
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:57 PM
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20. Even a bicycle....
would have worked better than a car.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:59 PM
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21. They won't let bicycles onto interstates -although as I wrote
previously,very little evidence of police or Texas state troopers to stop you
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:03 PM
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22. I was thinking a cessna or piper aircraft.
You can pick one up for 15-25k and fly out of town. Seats 4 people- you could be three states away in a couple of hours.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:05 PM
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24. You still have to get to the airport first
but at least you'd be guaranteed a seat
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:28 PM
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37. Or you could live at the airport.
There are plenty of fly-in communities around the country. You would have to have a boatload of money though.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:06 PM
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25. A bicycle would be even bettter. You don't need gas.
I used to think of getting a motorcycle every now and then when I lived in L. A., stuck in freeway traffic. Those guys on motorcycles would just zoom right past you.
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:38 PM
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34. Only if the cars aren't running ...
after 20 miles of huffing exhust fumes you'll probably fall off your bike dead, or at least be taking a little nap.
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:19 AM
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39. Actually there are motorized bicycles, my dad has one. You could
alternate pedaling and turning on the ? (I don't know what is runs on), when you get tired.
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 07:14 AM
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42. A duel-sport, or street legal dirt bike would be the ultimate....
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