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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:21 PM
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Caption this image (and spread it around)
this should open some eyes of even some republicans, especially if they are "conservative".

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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:23 PM
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1. do you have a link for that?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:26 PM
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6. right click on it
choose properties and the addy will be there
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:28 PM
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8. yes
it was sent to me in an email. I posted it on my website. you can use this URL to pass on to other people:

solarbus.org/politics/images/budget.jpg

just put an "http://" in front of it and you're set (if I did that, the image would show instead of the text of the URL).

FYI, any images that appear in DU threads, you can right click to get the URL.

the source is shown as the Congressional Budget Office. The person I got it from is very trustworthy and I believe it is accurate.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:46 PM
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16. Thx - this is definatly a spreader arounder...
great stuff...
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:24 PM
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2. Thats amazin'
Theyll cover their eyes and sing ;

**********LALALALA*********

********I cant see or hear the truth********

********LALALALA*****************
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:24 PM
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3. Wow.
That's just flucking scary. *shudders*

Totally amazing. If ANYONE can "refute" that, I'll :puke:.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:25 PM
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4. Yeehaw...
Junior finally found something he can do better than daddy...cripple future generations with massive debt, and here I always called him bush the lesser!:rofl:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:26 PM
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5. Republicans in power are disastrous for the average American.
Especially if their last name is *shudder* bush.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:28 PM
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7. Steve Forbes in 1993 blames Clinton for the "Second Great Depression"
http://www.theprospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=5005

But you're not likely to find any admission of error by the business commentators who were predicting doom. Take, for example, the columns of Steve Forbes, son of tycoon Malcolm, in Forbes. In May 1993, Forbes wrote, "Clinton's proposed tax increases are what is dampening the economy." This was before they went into effect, or even made it past Congress. In April of the next year, Forbes was telling his readers, "The thought won't occur to anyone in the White House, but there is a more than passing connection between financial market wobbliness and taxpayers' feeling the full brunt this month of Clinton's tax increases."
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:32 PM
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12. Forbes is delirious
A true Whacko.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:57 PM
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19. how many millions did Forbes make off Bush's tax cuts?
shows you his frame of reference.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:57 AM
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29. Who wouldn't go back to those (Clinton) taxes to have that economy again?
Sigh...
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:31 PM
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9. "Mission Accomplished"!
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:33 PM
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13. you almost made me cry.
your caption is incredibly and strangely appropriate. I want to cry but I'm not sure if it's because it's so funny, or sad.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:51 PM
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17. That chart would make a great Bumper Sticker!
People would be curious to know what it meant.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:32 PM
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10. Sent this to all the Republicans I know
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:32 PM
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11. how would you describe the slope of that last line?
freefall?

straight down?

plummeting into the abyss?

blank check?

the biggest spendoff in the history of our country?


the real issue my friends is where all that money is going. Halliburton certainly doesn't have anything to complain about.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:03 PM
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35. Aviators might identify that line as a very poor glide ratio...
sometimes called a crash in the making.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:37 PM
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14. dubya:
"i'm gonna grow the federal government so big 'til it drowns in a sea of red ink!"
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:45 PM
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15. The Truth about Tax Cuts
. . .the only thing trickling DOWN under conservative agendas is U.S. solvency.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:56 PM
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18. tax cuts is only half of the equation...
the other half is the maverick spending frenzy (on an unecessariy war among other things)
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 09:54 PM
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20. Part of the equation
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 09:58 PM by Coyote_Bandit
is also unemployment and under-employment.

Folks who used to make $70,000 or $80,000 and now find themselves earning $20,000 - or nothing at all - pay a whole lot less in taxes. Now take that and compound it several million times.

Tax revenues are reduced by both tax cuts and declining wages. The spending compulsion is self-evident.

edit for typos
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ljaycox Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:35 AM
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28. This years tax revenues....
are at an all time high. This is a spending issue. We need to be careful here talking about tax cuts being the problem. The projected deficit for this year was revised down by the CBO nearly 300B. We need to think and argue about spending priorities, and fiscal responsibilty--not more taxes. Tax increase talk will hurt us, the Rep's know how to use that.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:38 AM
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33. Tax Revenues
would be even higher if all those folks who are now unemployed or who are now making less than half of what they previously earned were paying taxes based on thier previous earnings. In other words, tax revenues are depressed by poor employment figures (as measured by the labor force participation rate) and the millions of workers who have seen their earnings decline.

Tax revenues are also depressed by tax cuts given to the wealthiest among us. Recognizing the effect of tax cuts that have been put in place is something very different from suggesting a tax increase. Though it might well lead to the logical conclusion that such a tax cut was not the best or brightest idea we have ever had.

One cannot fully address any budget issue without considering both sides of the equation - tax revenues and expenditures. Or at least they can't do it well. Anyone who has maintained a household budget understands that.

I, for one, am not impressed by "solutions" that are incomplete at best. It makes me suspicious. I don't trust those who aren't willing to discuss and present all aspects of an issue. Makes me wonder what they are afraid of - or what they are hiding. One simply cannot effectively talk about budgets without discussing both revenues (i.e., taxes) and expenditures. I doubt I am alone in my views. Like many voters I am a bit of a cynic. My primary tool in judging candidates and platforms is to simply follow the money. Where does it come from and where does it go? I know of no better way to identify priorities.

Deficits are not spending issues alone. They are budget issues that necessitate consideration of both revenues and spending. Any discussion that avoids both of these aspects is incomplete - as I am sure any unemployed or underemployed person could explain.

If we are ineffective in discussing budget revenues and expenditures then it is because we have not properly framed the issue and presented our arguments. Our own ineptitude (or perhaps fear of Republican exploitation) ought not to be a reason to avoid difficult issues. If we allow it to be then we have already lost.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:17 PM
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21. ATDD
Attention To Deficit Disorder. It can be DEADLY.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:45 PM
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22. kick for the latenight folk
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:49 PM
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23. Thanks for posting this I had posted it last week
and then didnt save it on my pc.....I'm gonna save it now! I want to upload it everytime I run into a freep on DU.
I ran into one the other day, and the guy said "the deficit was arguable" WTF?! How can you argue this photo? I couldn't find it at the time though, so thanks!

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:51 PM
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24. Thanks GaryBeck!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:05 PM
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25. Forwarded to my favorite RWer....

"Happy days are here again! The skies above are blue again! Happy days..."

Oh, nevermind.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:59 AM
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31. Happy days are here again
Good ironic caption for the pic.

Or maybe just "Happy Daze."
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:52 AM
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26. Truly Amazing graphic...Thank You!
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:14 AM
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27. I posted that
In a neoconservative forum back here. It freaked them to the bone, and left them desperately attacking the 'source' (it was in a photobucket account), the numbers, the graphs layout - everything!
I told them to check out the numbers themselves from the source that's printed on the pic, but to no avail.

It was like watching kids stick their fingers in their ears and shout 'I can't hear you!'. ;-)
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:00 AM
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30. Oh please, can we have the ADULTS back in charge???
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:40 AM
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34. LOL - for a second I thought you were talking to the OP
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 11:40 AM by Mr_Spock
Then it hit me :rofl:
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:10 AM
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32. Thanks!!
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:37 PM
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36. Kills the myth that Reagan's economy was the best

The freepers are always trying to give Reagan credit for the surplus of the Clinton years. Yeah right. GHWB was already effing it up for four years in between Reagan and Clinton.
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:05 PM
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37. According to Cheney,deficits don't matter. Not to him since he is a
beneficiary of all that red ink,between tax cuts and war booty.

Sinful, what these bastards have done to our national treasure, the money as well as the dead soldiers. And now, of course, when a national disaster strikes, the piggy back is as empty as Bush and Cheney's hearts.

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:40 AM
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38. Thanks, great find
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northerdar Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:55 AM
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39. I Sent this to Lou Dobbs
my words.
Hey Lou Dobbs, Put this on your show tonight..........TAX CUTS FOR THE 1% ELITE ARE HURTING AMERICA!!!!! Are you too scared to do it?"

I also passed this on email to my friends. This should go to every MSM and every local newspaper. Money talks. No one likes being robbed and lower and middle class Americans are being robbed by the W Bush corrupt government. It's time to say we aren't going to take the corruption any more. It's IMPEACHMENT time.

This should be put on every community bulletin board. Make lots of copies everyone and put them up where ever you all go.

Here is Lou Dobb's email address:
Everyone send this graph to Lou Dobb who the stock street boys watch.

moneyline@cnn.com
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:04 AM
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40. Republicans = DEFICITs??? I'm Shocked i tell ya!
:kick:
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:25 AM
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41. If "a rising tide lifts all ships," what does this do?
Just sayin, I'm hoping y'all have life jackets. :shrug:
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