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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:15 PM
Original message
Update on Leonard Peltier
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 08:17 PM by BeHereNow
Dear DU,
I have been talking with Toni Zeidan who works
in the LPDC (Leonard Peltier Defense Committee) office
over the last few days. I have agreed to post updates here
for her on Leonard.
Many of you called the Terrer Haute facility where Leonard
was moved to and placed in solitary confinement.
What an abomination that scene was.
Your calls DID make a difference.
Leonard is now in Lewisberg, PA USP and
has regained his "General Population" privleges.
That includes his right to paint. He is a very gifted artist
and as you might imagine, his art is one of his few escapes
from the insanity of his years of incarceration.

He was not allowed to take ANY of his suppiles in the move,
he lost everything basically. If you would like to
help, you can send support to the LPDC office and specify
"supplies" on your contribution.
I called the Lewisberg office- Leonard can only purchase supplies
through the Prison "Craft Store," but Toni assured me that
their office will direct your support to him as you request.

To contact Toni and learn more, vist the LPCD web site here:
http://www.leonardpeltier.org

BHN

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:19 PM
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1. Leonard's new address:
To write Leonard and offer him you love and support,
visit this link:
http://lpdcinc.blogspot.com/

Contains his last communication, thanking all who
called Terre Haute on his behalf.
BHN
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:22 PM
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2. I love Leonard
and he has no business being incarcerated, Our penal system is an atrocity. Nov violent criminals should be put in nothing less than home confinement. But with the privitazation of the prison system, they make 30-60 grand a year off each prisoner.

It's heinous.

God bless Leonard. Big time.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Have you read this?
Leonard Peltier's Annual Message
January 23, 2004
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Below is Leonard Peltier's annual message delivered in conjunction with the anniversary of his incarceration on February 6th. Please broadcast as widely as possible to as many groups as possible. This is a message to all people regardless of color.


Hau Kola, Hello my friends, my relatives:

You can never imagine the heartfelt comfort it brings to know you're not forgotten in prison. This is my 28th year, and I've seen others come and go and return again. I can't help but feel a great sorrow for many of these young men who keep coming back for one reason or another; most of which are alcohol related offenses. So much has changed since I came here and yet, in many ways, it's still the same.

The government, under the pretext of security and progress, liberated us from our land, resources, culture, dignity and future. They violated every treaty they ever made with us. I use the word "liberated" loosely and sarcastically, in the same vein that I view their use of the words "collateral damage" when they kill innocent men, women, and children.

They describe people defending their homeland as terrorists, savages and hostiles, and accuse us of being aggressors. We have never fought a battle or war that was not on our own land; we never fired the first shot ... ever.

My words reach out to the non-Indian: Look now before it's far too late - see what is being done to others in your name and see what destruction you sanction when you say nothing. Your own treaty, the one between yourselves and the government, is being violated daily; this treaty is commonly known as the Constitution.

With us, they started a little at a time, encroaching on our rights until we had none at all. It will be the same for the Constitution; this is not conjecture, but fact. We are not embattled with the color of man, but with the weakness of man, a mindset that lusts for power and wealth at the expense of life.

Men of all colors, cultures and religions must stand together to oppose the genocidal policies that face us all as the corporate world seeks to enslave all, and pit one nation against another.

If you avoid breaking laws and do what you're told and ignore the poor, the oppressed and the downtrodden - you probably won't be bothered. If you try to right what is wrong, however, you will surely meet great opposition and run the risk of imprisonment or death.

I am a Sun Dancer. I took a vow for my people. I chose to seek the Creator's will and to follow it to the best of my ability. I WILL NOT STAND DOWN FROM THAT VOW. I will continue to speak, write and organize until Grandfather himself quiets my life. If I can do this in prison, I have no doubt you can do much better from where you stand.

I encourage you to do your best, be kind to one another, seek harmony and balance with all natural life, enjoy what freedom you have left, and most of all, never, never give up.

In the Spirit of Crazy Horse,
Leonard Peltier
Mitakuye Oyasin
http://www.freepeltier.org/012304_annual_message.htm

Leonard's address in Lewisberg USP. please write him.

Leonard Peltier
#89637-132
USP Lewisberg
P.O. Box 1000
Lewisberg, PA 17837

BHN
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Stella


Leonard isn't a "non-violent criminal". He is an innocent man and political prisoner. Bill Clinton said he would pardon Leonard, but didn't. Indians don't have the payolla or political clout it seems.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Clinton was too busy pardoning CRIMINALS.
Thanks for clarifying the truth Iktomiwicasa.
BHN
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #10
63. Ugh! This disgusts me
"Rumors that Clinton was considering a Christmas pardon for Peltier swept through the FBI, angering agents from coast to coast and prompting an unprecedented march of thousands of current and former FBI agents in Washington in December to demand that Peltier's clemency request be rejected."

He bowed to the pressure even though he knew the FBI had framed this guy, and that's why they didn't want him released. As long as they can keep the title "convicted murderer" on LP, they can continue the charade that they are enforcers of the law. :grr:
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WarNoMore Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. To me..
the most egregious decision Clinton ever made.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Truth is revealed by ACTION, not words.
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 09:51 PM by BeHereNow
I think I know all I need to know
about the Clinton Clan by their actions.
Many of which set the stage for the
abuses by the Bush Clan we are witnessing now.
I get flamed for saying it here on DU, but
frankly, no matter to me.
People who ignore or do not understand or KNOW their own history.
or worse, insist on ONLY knowing the parts that
make them "feel good" are fools in my book.
BHN
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Amen
Your truth resounds. It is clear.


"To survive, the spectacle must have social control. It can recuperate a potentially threatening situation by shifting ground, creating dazzling alternatives- or by embracing the threat, making it safe and then selling it back to us"- Larry Law
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #15
32. Well said.
Not being Republican is simply not good enough. It is up to each of us to demand more of our party and I fear we have not been doing that enough.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
75. there's this dude they should hire, I think his name is Jack something
he says he has connections
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:25 PM
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3. You speak out on another's behalf. You rock!
I will check into it. peace
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. We must ALL be the voice for the voiceless-
The system has assumed that we would all forget about
Leonard- as a matter of fact they counted on it.
I have not, and will not be silent.
What is done to one among us is done to all.
BHN
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
7.  I know that truth
what we do to another we do to ourselves as well.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:49 PM
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8. Thanks
I will be sure to send a donation.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Good on you- the system is making it VERY hard on the LPDC-
Moving Leonard all over the place is by design.
It makes it very difficult for his lawyers and supporters,
not to mention how hard it is on Leonard himself.
It is deliberate and indicative of their malevolent
nature and collective guilt.
If you can help the LPDC, they can use it-
they are facing additional costs due to the fact that
Leonard has been tracked for a "bus tour" of the UPSs
The technique is well known among those of us who
work with victims of the system.
BHN
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. You are the one doing the good work
Please keep us informed. I hope they finally release Leonard one day. Talk about a miscarriage of justice!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Simply doing what is right.
What else do any of us have at the end of the day?
BHN
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:53 PM
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9. powerful
"Your own treaty, the one between yourselves and the government, is being violated daily; this treaty is commonly known as the Constitution."

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. THAT sentence NAILS it for me too.
Truer words have never been spoken.
That is why I get so frustrated by
the disconnect of the "Average American" to the
past and history.
People do NOT as a rule understand the
BIG picture of which we are ALL a part of.
We CAN NOT affect the present without
balancing the past.
Karma, if you will.

BHN
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:07 PM
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14. thank you for posting this
thank you, thank you, BeHereNow

i was an LPDC supporter during the '90s, but had lost touch.

you've bridged that gap for me, and i'm very grateful.

printed out for reference, and nominated.

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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:53 PM
Response to Original message
19. Thank you for enlightening me with this thread
Ignorance is NOT bliss-nor is it an excuse, any longer. I'm going to learn more, so hopefully, I can do more.
Another thread to nominate.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:42 PM
Response to Original message
20. Kicking for Leonard-
Cause it MATTERS.
BHN
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:02 PM
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21. Thank you from PA.
kick
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. You're welcome from L.A.
Hugs to those you love, and are loved by-
BHN
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:34 PM
Response to Original message
23. For a primer on the history of this case,
while the other site gets filled in with the background information, there is also:

http://www.freepeltier.org/peltier_faq.htm

Almost unbearable to read about, but BeHereNow reminds us that we can't let ourselves forget.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Thanks for adding that link-
I THINK it is on the LPDC link, but I may be worng.
The freepeltier link has not been updated for some time-
Do you know hwat is up with that?
Good to have the "primer" as you say on the case.
I am CONSTANTLY astounded by the number
of people who have no frame of reference about the FACTS on Leonard's case.
Even here on DU, people continue to refer to the case
based on the PROPAGANDO dished out by "the powers that be"
from thirty years ago.
Amazing when you think about it.
BHN
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:46 PM
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25. Kicking
:kick:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. and for those who don't understand
"In the Spirit of Crazy Horse" by Peter Matthiessen. So, is he allowed to receive packages besides letters?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. Don't think so-
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 12:39 AM by BeHereNow
Call the prison or contact Toni for more details-
info@leonardpeltier.org
ATTN: TONI
in the subject line.
Ever been to a Federal Pen?
If not, GO to see, first hand, the inhumanity of man against man.
In my humble opinion, a vist to a federal pen should be
a REQUIRED experience for EVERY tax paying American.
A visit to a US Pen gives you a very clear vision of what one
step from the gates of hell looks like, courtesy of your tax dollar.
BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. Leonard refers to the Prison system as:
"The fastest growing reservation" in America.
I would concur.
BHN
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. I haven't
but my friend from Pine Ridge who now lives in California goes to the prisons with others to dance (she's a traditional dancer) for the Native American prisoners. In California, they allow them to do ceremony with the prisoners. This is in Northern California.
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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #28
47. would that a supposedly christian nation would listen to jesus
when he said "I was in prison and you came to visit me" (Matthew 25:36).
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:26 AM
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26. Kicking for Leonard, cause HRF has gone to bed.
Heal the root is you want to heal the leaf,
BHN
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #26
31. AND HERE'S
another kick, kick, kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #26
49. Mornin! kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:05 AM
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33. thank you for this update, BeHereNow. kick
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. kick
kick for L.P.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #34
35. Got a date with dreamtime-
Thanks for keeping this kicked for LP.
Listening to John Lurie as a launch pad
into dream world...good as anything I know
for connecting to the collective consciousness.
See you all there-
BHN
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #35
36. precious sweet dreams, BeHereNow. thank you, for all you do. eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:29 AM
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37. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:41 AM
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38. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:14 AM
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39. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:21 AM
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40. please! i hope people will send all support possible. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:28 AM
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41. in thanks for your courage and your strength to endure, dear LPeltier.
:kick:


peace
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:32 AM
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42. kick. please do all you can! and kick for the morning folks. eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:38 AM
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43. i hope you are resting, LPeltier. thank you for writing to us. peace n/t
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:00 AM
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44. Wiping away tears,
or, as Poor George puts it, lacerations.

I'm lost for words ...... well, almost ...

This is a story I'd never heard before, but sadly it's one of so many tales of innocence locked away so it can't corrupt the guilty.

Leonard is a great man, but he is not the only one. We all have the ability within us to be great, and if he can achieve so much from a prison cell, how much more can we achieve in our freedom? It's up to us, we can learn from his example, take on his courage, and thoroughly commit ourselves to our ideals. Then, instead of just one light burning in prison, we can have hundreds of thousands of lights burning throughout the country.

More and more people are finding resources within themselves that they never knew they had. It will happen.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:06 AM
Response to Reply #44
45. welcome to DU, Kailassa..
There are more stories than our hearts can bear..

Here we keep the flame that will re-ignite Liberty's torch.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #45
46.  This should
be permanently at the top of page one, if anyone here cares about liberty and freedom.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:41 AM
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48. got that right. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #48
50. still kickin
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:43 AM
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51. keep kickin
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. and before you know it....
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:43 AM
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53. Voila!
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #53
54. it's at the top!
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. kick
kick
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:12 PM
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56. Thank you for the education.
I am preparing to take action as my finances allow; and to contribute in lieu of some gifts this season coming.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:56 PM
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57. Why is this off the front page? kick


Probably because of really important topics like "Bush is drinking" or "Cheney had knee surgery, I hope he dies".
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. git back up there.... (kick)
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. Check your PM-n/t
bhn
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. Iktomiwicasa-
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 01:08 PM by BeHereNow
The really important topics, Cheney's knees for instance,
are why I keep posting LP udates on a regular
basis. The last LP thread I started had four replies.
Eventually perhaps people will get the big picture.
Its the constant drops of water
that make the deepest well.
Cognitive disconnect is an affliction that
has been years in the making; it will take years
in the unmaking.
Glad to have you as a partner in this work.
I think it will be a lifetime endeavor for us and the
others we have yet to meet.
BHN
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:11 PM
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60. Kick
:kick:
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. kick
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. The dominant culture is blind
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. deaf (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. and dumb (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. but we must never (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. give up hope (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:00 PM
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70. one individual at a time (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:00 PM
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71. imagine (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:00 PM
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72. what would happen (kick)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:01 PM
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73. if.....
they put Leonard Peltier, Martha Stewart and Cindy Sheehan in the same cell!

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:26 PM
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65. I'm kicking this one more time.
This is really important, folks.
:kick:
Incident at Oglala: The Leonard Peltier Story
http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=24692

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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:28 PM
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74. thanks for posting this Myrna. Funny, I noticed the film is
rated PG.

Says a lot about something. Don't know what, but.....
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:13 PM
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76. kick it up, dammit
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:44 PM
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77. Kicking with an excerpt from an interview with LP:
From an interview with LP:

"The United States government can indict you on something, and now you've got to prove your innocence. And that's not the Constitution of the United States. But that's what's happening with the right-wing fascist conservative bull that's going on in this country. People don't realize, or don't want to wake up and see what's really happening. This is the same thing that the Nazi party did during their taking control of Germany. They started with their judiciary system, and nobody in Germany believed it could happen there either."

Source:
http://siouxme.com/lodge/peltier_interview.html


BHN
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:01 PM
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78. Why does this
keep falling back? WAKE UP you so-called progressives!
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:09 PM
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79. just the facts, ma'am. Posting info from dickshovel.com to keep this
kicked


From the Article AIM, Pine Ridge and the FBI
http://www.dickshovel.com/Aim.Pine.html
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:09 PM
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80. AIM Casualties on Pine Ridge, 1973-1976
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:09 PM
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81. 4.17.73-Frank Clearwater-
AIM member killed by heavy machine gun round at Wounded Knee. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:10 PM
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82. 4.23.73-Between eight and twelve individuals (names unknown)
4.23.73-Between eight and twelve individuals (names unknown) packing supplies into wounded Knee were intercepted by Goons and vigilantes. None were ever heard from again. Former Rosebud Tribal President Robert Burnette and U.S. Justice Department Solicitor General Kent Frizzell conducted unsuccessful search for a mass grave after Wounded Knee siege. No further investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:10 PM
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83. 4.27.73-Buddy Lamont
4.27.73-Buddy Lamont-AIM member hit by M16 fire at Wounded Knee, Bled to death while pinned down by fire. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:11 PM
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84. 6.19.73-Clarence Cross
6.19.73-Clarence Cross-AIM supporter shot to death in ambush by Goons. Although assailants were identified by eyewitnesses, brother Vernal Cross-wounded in ambush-was briefly charged with crime. No further investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:11 PM
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85. 4.14.73-Priscilla White Plume-
4.14.73-Priscilla White Plume-AIM supporter killed at Manderson by Goons. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:11 PM
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86. 7.30.73-Julius Bad Heart Bull
7.30.73-Julius Bad Heart Bull-AIM supporter killed at Oglala AIM supporter killed at Oglala by "person or persons unknown." No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:12 PM
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87. 9.22.73-Melvin Spider-
9.22.73-Melvin Spider-AIM member killed Porcupine, South Dakota. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:13 PM
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89. to be continued.....
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:42 PM
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92. 9.23.73-Philip Black Elk
9.23.73-Philip Black Elk-AIM supporter killed when his house exploded. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:43 PM
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93. 10.5.73-Aloysius Long Soldier
10.5.73-Aloysius Long Soldier-AIM member killed at Kyle, S.D. by Goons.No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:43 PM
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94. 10.10.73-Phillip Little Crow
10.10.73-Phillip Little Crow-AIM supporter beaten to death by Goons at Pine Ridge. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:43 PM
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95. 0.17.73-Pedro Bissonette
0.17.73-Pedro Bissonette-Oglala Sioux Civil Rights Organization (OSCRO) organizer and AIM supporter assassinated by BIA Police/Goons. Body removed from Pine Ridge jurisdiction prior to autopsy by government contract coroner. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:44 PM
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96. 11.20.73-Allison Fast Horse
11.20.73-Allison Fast Horse-AIM supporter shot to death near Pine Ridge by "unknown assailants." No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:44 PM
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97. 1.17.74-Edward Means, Jr.
1.17.74-Edward Means, Jr.-AIM member found dead in Pine Ridge alley, beaten. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:45 PM
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98. 2.27.74-Edward Standing Soldier
2.27.74-Edward Standing Soldier-AIM member killed near Pine Ridge by "party r parties unknown." No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:45 PM
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99. 4.19.74-Roxeine Roark-
4.19.74-Roxeine Roark-AIM supporter killed at Porcupine by "unknown assailants." Investigation open, still "pending."
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:46 PM
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100. 9.7.74-Dennis LeCompte
9.7.74-Dennis LeCompte-AIM member killed at Pine Ridge by Goons. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:47 PM
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101. 9.11.74-Jackson Washinton Cutt
9.11.74-Jackson Washinton Cutt-AIM member killed at Parmalee by "unknown individuals." Investigation still "ongoing."
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:47 PM
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102. 9.16.74-Robert Reddy
9.16.74-Robert Reddy-AIM member killed at Kyle by gunshot. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:48 PM
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103. 11.16.74-Delphine Crow Dog
11.16.74-Delphine Crow Dog-sister of AIM spiritual leader Leonard Crow Dog. Beaten by BIA police and left lying in a field. Died from "exposure." No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:48 PM
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104. 11.20.74-Elaine Wagner-
11.20.74-Elaine Wagner-AIM supporter killed at Pine Ridge by "person or persons unknown." No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:49 PM
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105. 12.25.75-Floyd S. Binais
12.25.75-Floyd S. Binais-AIM supporter killed at Pine Ridge by Goons. No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:49 PM
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106. 12.28.74-Yvette Loraine Lone Hill
12.28.74-Yvette Loraine Lone Hill-AIM supporter killed at Kyle by "unknown party or parties." No investigation.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:50 PM
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107. 1.5.75-Leon L. Swift Bird
1.5.75-Leon L. Swift Bird-AIM member killed at Pine Ridge by Goons. Investigation still "ongoing."
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:51 PM
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108. 3.1.75-Martin Montileaux
3.1.75-Martin Montileaux-killed in a Scenic, S.D. bar. AIM leader Richard Marshall later framed for his murder. Russell Means also charged and acquitted.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:51 PM
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109. 3.20.75-Stacy Cotter
3.20.75-Stacy Cotter-shot to death in an ambush at Manderson. No investigation.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:57 PM
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111. devastating. gratitude for your work listing these murdered heroes
hardrainfallin


aaaaaiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

weep weep weeeeeeep ! !

oh help us all, how can we get a step ahead of the monsters?!!

please keep on
all


solidarity

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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:20 PM
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117. gotta admit...hurts like hell just to think about it...
Btw, a really good read by someone who was there...amazing testimony to the power of the human Spirit to go through hell and come out HUMAN!

Woody Kipp

Vietcong at Wounded Knee

http://www.moscowfood.coop/books/casey5.html
Blurb from a review:

You probably know some things about Wounded Knee, and you probably know some things about the Vietnam War. You might know some things about the forces that have shaped the lives of present day Native American men. And you might know some things about Vietnam vets. If you read Vietcong at Wounded Knee: The Trail of a Blackfeet Activist by Woody Kipp, you might be surprised by how little you know of an experience that puts all these things together. Woody Kipp grew up on the Blackfeet reservation, just a generation away from the last buffalo hunt. He served as a Marine in Vietnam, and he was present at the occupation of Wounded Knee in 1973. How impressive, you might think, what a witness to history. But what history and as written by whom?

Kipp seemed to be unable to get with the program as a Marine. His natural impulse for settling a conflict with his commanding officer was to fistfight. He felt most at ease wandering alone in Vietnamese villages, chatting and joking in pidgin English and sign language. Observing his manners, his skin, his features, Vietnamese people told him, “You same same Vietcong.” When his tour there ended, he didn’t seem to get much with any program stateside either.

His experience at the standoff at Wounded knee starts out with a road trip—young people fueled with unfocused passion who have no money and a dubious vehicle heading to where the action is. Pinned down in a South Dakota field by flares and gunfire he is struck by another, deeper truth of “You same same Vietcong.” His experience and welfare were of no value to American culture, and in fact, he was dispensable and in the way. At that point he begins to see the trail, his own trail into a life of meaningful personal activism. As a trail, it isn’t straight, and there are many arrivals along the way. It’s a richer and more plausible route than the superhighway of contemporary history.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:33 PM
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119. yes yes "hurts like hell" beyond expression. thank you for the book
recommendation, hardrainfallin.
"amazing testimony to the power of the human Spirit to go through hell and come out HUMAN!"
vitally important consciousness he is sharing. i will find the book.

please keep on


solidarity

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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:55 PM
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110. KICK, LP on native American Ground...Sovereign nation. Iraq at home.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:12 PM
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88. kick for Leonard.
It's not too much to ask to at least make a small contribution so Leonard can continue his art while wrongfully imprisoned. In the world of prisons, you're only freedom is in your mind and spirit.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:14 PM
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90. and Bill Clinton preferred clemency for scumbag Mark Rich
think of that every time you see poppy bush's boating buddy claiming to be some kind man of the people
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:25 PM
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91. All of


your politicians are crooks and liars. Dem, Repub, doesn't matter. Some are just more out front with it.
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:59 PM
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112. Bad apples in the FBI like unto the Gestapo, like the KKK, or the neo-cons
Killers for hire, souless demoniacs.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:01 PM
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113. kick. please do all you can!! eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:08 PM
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114. kick for Leonard. sending all possible healing energy and gratitude. eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:10 PM
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115. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:15 PM
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116. kick. please pass this link on. please do all you can! thank you! eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:21 PM
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118. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:50 PM
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120. kick!
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:05 PM
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121. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:09 PM
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122. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:10 PM
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123. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:12 PM
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124. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:13 PM
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125. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:14 PM
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126. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:18 PM
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127. kick. folks, please do ALL you can! and please pass this on! eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:22 PM
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128. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:22 PM
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129. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:25 PM
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130. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:26 PM
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131. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:28 PM
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132. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:32 PM
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133. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:40 PM
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134. kick.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:41 PM
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135. kick. off for a while. please kick and do ALL you can, everyone! eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:43 PM
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136. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:44 PM
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137. kick
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:47 PM
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138. Just checking in to find decent news here. Thanks.
not excellent news, but decent news. Thanks for all your messages in your topic here. Free Leonard Peltier. I can't believe Clinton didn't do it. bah. should never have been jailed in the first place. Thanks.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:47 PM
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139. kick
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:49 PM
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140. Kick
:kick:
Travesties of justice started way before homeland security made it ok. It always depends on whose neighborhood it's in before it becomes an issue.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:49 PM
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141. kick
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:28 PM
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142. First of all KICKED AND NOMINATED
This is total insanity. I've been following Leonard's case since the Clinton years, when Clinton promised to pardon him and then reneged. Whenever I'm asked to defend my anti-Clinton stance I bring that up. There is no reason on earth for Leonard to be in jail. Everyone from the feds to the prosecutors have admitted he was railroaded, are they so afraid of him that they need him behind bars?
Nearly half a million people marched on Washington Saturday, protesting the fact that we invaded and are occupying a country, killing their people, consuming their resources, and subverting their culture.... ringing any bells? We have ignored the Native American's plight for far too long. We need to start making some restitution, start reinstating the treaties and get this poor guy out of freakin jail. Can you imagine being in prison for 30 YEARS, and 20 of those have been after the feds and prosecutors admitted the case was a fraud. I'd be going nuts. I'm pissed off and I'm a white man from the outside. I can only imagine what it's like.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:14 PM
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143. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:14 PM
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144. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:14 PM
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145. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:14 PM
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146. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:15 PM
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147. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:15 PM
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148. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:15 PM
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149. kick
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:15 PM
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150. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:23 PM
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151. it is total insanity. just knocks the breath out of me to realize Leonard
Peltier is STILL in prison!!

we've got to do more and i can not figure out what to do.

people must at least support his defense fund. there are more legal steps coming up.

please spread the word.


solidarity
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:30 PM
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152. i have never forgiven, and will never forgive clinton for that. i live
utterly disgusted by that cowardice - or worse - he revealed in those last hours. i will never forget it, the agonizing torment of realizing he was not going to free Leonard.

and we were so sure he would, that it was too late to do any more to convince him by the time he walked away.


aaarrrrrrrghhh.....

please keep on


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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:33 PM
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153. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:41 PM
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:44 PM
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:49 PM
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:59 PM
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:06 AM
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:14 AM
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159. Kick and recommended...Thanks so much for the post.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 01:29 AM
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160. Link:
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:30 AM
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:35 AM
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162. Thunderheart and Incident at Oglala.
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 08:37 AM by myrna minx
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767812182/103-4626987-5147844?v=glance

Tough but moving, Thunderheart is an unusual story about an arrogant FBI agent (Val Kilmer) who participates in a federal investigation of a murder on an Oglala Sioux reservation. Kilmer's character is part Sioux himself, a detail that leaves him cold as he sets about pushing his way through the community to find facts on the case. In time, however, he begins to feel an ethnic tug and grows increasingly sympathetic to the locals and hostile toward his fellow G-men, much to the dismay of his agency mentor (Sam Shepard). The script is based on real events that occurred on the Pine Ridge Reservation in 1975 in South Dakota (involving an armed standoff between Indian activists and the FBI, an event that prompted Thunderheart director Michael Apted to make a companion documentary, Incident at Oglala). The conclusion of Thunderheart feels like politically charged whimsy, but the real strength of the film is Kilmer's outstanding performance as a man in transformation. Apted's clear-eyed depiction of the Sioux's spiritual and cultural continuity with the past has none of the cloying romanticism of other films about Indians. Produced by Robert De Niro. --Tom Keogh --




Based on the documentary Incident at Oglala
The review on Amazon is milquetoast and does not do this film justice. This is an excellent documentary that all Americans should see.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001FVDI2/qid=1127827788/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4626987-5147844?v=glance&s=dvd

Incident at Oglala

Robert Redford is the executive producer (and narrator) of this fine, eye-opening documentary about the violent events that took place in 1975 on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. Indian activists ended up in an extended standoff with FBI agents, and the result was several deaths, including two federal men whose killing (according to many people) was never clearly attributed to a specific gunman. Nevertheless, the government laid blame for the tragedy on Leonard Peltier, a Sioux political leader who has long been a focus for supporters believing he took the fall, possibly heroically, for others. Peltier has spent many years in prison, and Apted's film, which is hardly ambiguous in its commitment toward Peltier's hoped-for freedom, is persuasive in both its detail and its case against brutal federal policies toward Indians. Whatever one's position on the Peltier question, this is a compelling piece of work. --Tom Keogh --This text refers to the VHS Tape edition.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:51 AM
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:30 AM
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164. Kickin' for Leonard-
Cause if we don't remember him, who will?
BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:00 AM
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165. Kicking for Leonard and the LPDC
Think there is no connection in the BALANCE of the world
as you now see it?
THINK AGAIN.
BH
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