Cheney has knee surgery, then WALKS TO HIS CAR?

[Atman]

Did anyone see the vid this morning? My wife is an APRN and when she saw it this morning, immediately called bullshit. How the hell does ANYONE have surgery on his knees, then walk himself to his car? Especially a near-death old fart like Cheney?

The only two explanations I can think of; he didn't really go in for surgery, he was just hiding out, as most of us suspected. Or, he actually hobbled to the car in excruciating pain because Rove was concerned about allowing a pic of him in a wheelchair to reach the media.

You and I can't go into the hospital for a hangnail removal without being forced to ride an orderly-powered wheelchair all the way to the curb. But Dick "Dick" Cheney has knee surgery, and walks all the way to his car on his own.

Hmmm.

[illuminaughty]

1. Yep, both knees. I thought it weird.

Especially, since Ruprecht, the monkey boy was at Norad at that same point in time. Something even more wicked this way comes.

[Atman]

5. I've no doubt they were in hiding

Combined with news of the metro being shut down and the huge crowd estimates, I'm as certain as I can be that they were prepared for big, big trouble, and left town (or were told to leave by the S.S.). It also helps explain the media blackout...RoveCo figured that seeing hundreds of thousands of marchers on teevee would only foment more anger and draw more protesters to the city, so they had the rails shut down and faxed out their "Lovely Rita" orders to the propaganda ministers at the networks and cable news outlets.

[iconoclastic cat]

2. Total bullshit.

My guess is that his heart problems are getting worse. I expect him to do a full-on Fred Sanford when Fitz indicts his pasty old ass.

[ugarte]

3. More than likely, penile reduction surgery

The man is just too studly.

[Binka]

22. Love It I Just Laughed So Hard!!!!!

Dick the BIG SWINGING dick!

[SoCalDem]

26. Don't laugh....

[loudsue]

29. Yikes!

Either he's ALL THAT, or the guy w/ the close-cut hair and pretty white hat turned him on!

:rofl: I'll bet the freepers LOVE this picture of their studly leader.

[Binka]

33. Good Gawd I Have Seen Huge Dicks Before But That Is NOT A Dick

Either rocks or some strange medical implant. Why is his wife a lesbian if he is that well hung? Rocks/Medical Implant. YMMV.

[redwitch]

4. Wheelchairs are for sissies

It's all about how it looks to the morans.

[Must_B_Free]

6. wasn't it for an annurism?

in which case you would expect he could walk on it?

[Missy M]

7. It's because of the type of surgery he had. A family member of...

mine had four brain surgeries and walked out the next day. It is the procedure they used going up through a vein instead of being invasive. So Cheney probably had that type of surgery.

[iconoclastic cat]

8. I'm still amazed that Cheney has veins! n/t

[Missy M]

10. Maybe they discovered he doesn't.

[Atman]

12. They pumped the ice out to keep Bush's beer cold in case they lost power.

nt

[Atman]

11. Your friend didn't walk out on his head

Cheney is old and fat, and probably has enough trouble with those knees on a GOOD day.

[Missy M]

14. They didn't do knee surgery, it was for an aneurysm in the vein....

behind his knee and is non-invasive so there would be no difficulty in walking out of the hospital.

[rodeodance]

31. right.

[YDogg]

9. It wasn't knee surgery. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Come on folks, it was just blood vessels. Don't have an aneurism over it!

[lildreamer316]

25. Ha. Ha.

Aha. ha. ha.
:spank:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

15. I understand your mistrust

but the kind of repair he had was not crippling. It didn't involve the actual structure of the knee that aids in walking.

[mduffy31]

16. As a nurse

...I can tell you that you would be able to walk after that surgery, I have seen it myself. As far as a wheelchair, all hospitals that I know of maintain that you have to ride in a wheelchair to the door, but after that you are usually on your own. I would suppose there would be different rules with the Secret Service in tow.

[Atman]

17. Oh well. Where's Tonya Harding when you really need her?

nt.

[peekaloo]

20. .

:rofl:

[goclark]

27. ROTFL --just got it!

[bleedingheart]

18. I suspect that walking would be the best thing for him to do...

the fellow clearly has poor circulation and walking and exercise are recommended.

I bet that it was a minor surgery in comparison to a knee replacment.

However I had an aunt that had a hip replacment and she was supposed to keep walking after that surgery...hell they got her out of bed the next day for PT. She went home, sat on her butt and died within a week from a clot. (the clot formed cuz she wasn't moving around)

[KoKo]

35. NYT's said he shouldn't exercise and they used a non-FDA approved

procedure with the stint graft...:eyes: Here's the article. It's weird that he chose to go the approved way but maybe he wanted to avoid the general anesthesia.

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Mr. Schmidt said that, before they started, the vice president's doctors had expected to perform the procedure only on the artery in Mr. Cheney's right knee. But during the procedure, he said, the doctors decided to repair both knees.

Some vascular surgeons who perform the stent-graft technique raised questions about its use in the vice president's surgery.

One concern was that the Food and Drug Administration has not approved any device in repairs of popliteal aneurysms, although doctors often implant stents for unapproved uses. Many doctors consider such uses experimental.

Another concern was that stents implanted in a knee would be subjected to far more stress from bending and extension than when placed in other arteries. Few studies have been conducted to determine the devices' durability in knees.

-snip-

Although the stent-graft procedure avoids the use of general anesthesia, "there still is stress associated with the procedure under local anesthesia, and there are potential complications," said Dr. K. Craig Kent, chief of vascular surgery at Weill Cornell and Columbia University medical schools.

"For patients with the usual risks, the traditional surgical operation is the better way to go," Dr. Kent said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/26/politics/26cheney.html

[leveymg]

19. The arteries are behind the knees - rear of the leg, between the tendons.

He seemed to be limping. If it were actual knee surgery, he wouldn't be walking for a while.

I've seen some posts that indicate that if he has this problem, he may well have the same weakened arteries elsewhere.

Cheney won't last through another 3 years. He's nearly completed his mission, anyway.

[kskiska]

21. They had to insert catheters in arteries in the groin area

and work the stents down to each knee. Doesn't sound minor to me.

[Horse with no Name]

24. It's more minor than you think

Most folks go home a few hours after the arteries have had ample time to clot.

[Atman]

23. VINDICATED? I knew there was something fishy about this

What's so "secret" about Cheney's knees?


Maybe they're 'secret' aneurysms

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I hadn't given a lot of thought to Dick Cheney's surgery over the weekend, because it didn't seem like a terribly big deal. A man in his mid-60s having two aneurysms repaired behind his knees doesn't seem the kind of thing that should raise suspicions. (I will say, however, that a friend of mine had a funny one about Cheney signing over power of the government over to Bush while he was under the knife, but that's another story.)

Nevertheless, I can't help but find it at least a little odd that the Bush gang is treating the procedure with such secrecy.

Two doctors on Mr. Cheney's medical team said they would be willing to discuss his case with this physician-reporter if given permission to do so. But the White House declined to grant such permission.

Is it me, or is this a little odd? I've seen doctors host press conferences on ESPN for athletes who've had surgery. And yet, the vice president, who's had four heart attacks, goes in for a double aneurysm repair, and reporters aren't even allowed to speak with the attending physicians? Under White House orders?

Is it possible the Bush gang feels the need for secrecy because this was a little less routine than the Bush gang has let on?

, said the decision to do both repairs on the same day was "surprising and a little bit irresponsible, I must say." That is partly because the extra procedure could increase the risk of complications now or in the future, he said.

"You really never want to tackle both sides at once," Dr. Bernik said, "because even though things may go smoothly on one side, you can still run into a problem while you are doing the other side, or shortly thereafter, and then you really could have a big problem on your hands."

It's just odd. Considering Cheney's medical history, the public has a right to know if the VP has a serious health problem. By shielding doctors — who are willing to speak to reporters — from questions, the White House is only fueling suspicions. Why?

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/5353.html

[kma3346]

28. I noticed that too

That seems very hard to believe...

:wtf:

[Emit]

30. My sister is a doctor. She said it's not that serious of an oper. n/t

[ribrepin]

32. I've had a lot of knee surgeries

While I haven't had surgery on the veins, I wonder about the effect of six hours of anesthesia. Seems like six hours of surgery would take a couple of weeks to come back from. Of course, the Bush adminstration are tough guys.

[Skidmore]

34. Even the Borg is mobile.