Entire 101st Airborne Division Deploying to Iraq

[DemReadingDU]

9/23/2005

Around 20,000 soldiers got their final briefing Friday afternoon at Ft. Campbell. It's been two years since the division was last deployed to Iraq.

Soldiers will board planes and be heading off Friday to do numerous duties, including helping train Iraqi law enforcement. Families took the afternoon to say goodbye.

This is just the 5th time in the history of the 101st that the entire division has been deployed all at once. The soldiers will be gone a year.

http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/14622.asp



FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. -- Combat soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division will begin deploying to Iraq in the next week, two years after the division helped topple Saddam Hussein, Army officials said Thursday.

The Army is processing nearly 1,000 soldiers a day at Fort Campbell, about 50 miles northwest of Nashville, Tenn. as the 3rd Brigade ramps up to be among the division's first combat units to replace the Army's 42nd Infantry Division operating out of Tikrit in north central Iraq


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9259067/

[NoBushSpokenHere]

1. On a related note ---

I was told while in DC * is recruiting Africans daily. They are signing them up simultaneously as US citizens. The man that told me this said they attempted to recruit his son this way. Can someone investigate this?????

[Inland]

2. That can't be right.

Unless Congress has passed a law while I wasn't looking, military service...even completed...doesn't give citizenship.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

3. This man said they were signing them up to be citizens and then

signing them up for military. He said he had proof, his son.

[Inland]

4. Well, my dad has a story about the Navy.

It ends with a chief petty officer saying "Is THAT what they told you? Huh" and him serving an extra year.

That is, they might be told that, but I don't think they are getting citizenship.

[Spinzonner]

5. Well, I think they get it posthumously

What a wonderful reward.

:sarcasm:

[NoBushSpokenHere]

7. Whether or not they receive citizenship --- this needs checked

out for further proof of the back door draft.

[txindy]

30. My thoughts, exactly.

Caveat emptor.

[leveymg]

22. Greencard holders may enlist . Nothing new here.

Back in WWII, we granted US residence status ("green card") to Filipinos who fought on the side of the US against Japan.

Today, you have to already have a green card to enlist.

A green card normally leads to naturalization after five years. Persons in active duty status can naturalize several years earlier.

[Pirate Smile]

29. I know they were doing that in some of the Pacific Islands, Guam, etc.

There were articles on it months ago.

[Solly Mack]

25. Yes, it does and has for quite some time now

Bush's XO

http://uscis.gov/graphics/lawsregs/handbook/ExecOrd13269.pdf

"President George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13269 in July expediting the naturalization process for soldiers deployed in support of America’s War on Terrorism, said Murphy."

and prior to this XO, soldiers could obtaib citizenship for serving - but it took longer.

Clinton also handed down an XO expediting the citizenships of those who served in the Gulf War.


http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/n1/natrlztn.asp

The process of naturalization in some circumstances is shortened for members of the U.S. armed forces and for the spouses of American citizens, and there are certain exceptions made by means of private immigration and naturalization bills passed by Congress. In addition to individual acts of naturalization, whole populations may be naturalized. An example is the conferring of citizenship at various times in U.S. history on the populace of Texas, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands.

a search on google will verify this

also, I've lived on army post for over a decade - and I see it all the time.


the marginalized bet the chance of citizenship against dying as cannon fodder -

[Toots]

36. You may be incorrect about that

I have always been under the asumption that if you complete an enlistment in the US Military you are automatically granted US citizenship.

[Lowell]

40. Wrong assumption

Citizenship is not automatic for veterans. They must apply and pass. Likewise citizenship is not automatic for children born of American parents in foreign countries. They too have to apply. Until they are of age they have dual citizenship and must make a choice upon reaching age. Military service simply makes the process easier, but not automatic.

[Ravenseye]

39. I think probably what happened is

They signed him up with the promise to be a citizen. They do this all the time. It's an easy way to U.S. citizenship. You don't even need a visa or green card to join the U.S. Army. Just swear the oath, do your time, and you'll come out a citizen. If you die before your time is up, you're posthumously given citizenship.

Most likely they told him if the signs up to serve he'll be given citizenship. That's true. What they leave out is that he serves as long as they want him too and he can't leave voluntairilly.

[UTUSN]

6. We've Got ANY Troops to Send ANYWHERE? n/t

[DemReadingDU]

8. and what's going on in Iraq, that

20,000 are being deployed this week?

[charlie]

10. Turf war

Jets vs the Sharks, really nasty.

Actually, it's Shiites vs Shiites, a twist Bushco assured us could never happen.

Just when it didn’t seem like Iraq could get any worse—it gets worse.

This time, it’s the simmering battle between two Shiite paramilitary armies: the forces of the Badr Brigade, the 20,000-strong force controlled by the Iranian-supported Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), and the Mahdi Army, the thousands-strong force that worships the fanatical Muqtada Al Sadr. The battle, which might flare into a Shiite-Shiite civil war in advance of the October 15 referendum on Iraq’s divisive, rigged constitution, could put the final nail in the coffin of the Bush administration’s Iraq policy.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050922/badr_vs_sadr.php

[leftchick]

32. the vote on the "constitution"

in October. Then it will be all peaceful and fuzzy in Iraq. :eyes:

[StClone]

9. For the Iran Invasion/Bombing?

Just wondering.

[Lerkfish]

31. my thoughts as well.

watch it happen.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. Civil Warriors.

[northzax]

12. that's an assault division

who are we assaulting again in Iraq? I can't keep them straight.

[IChing]

13. Iran and Syria ..... no sorry just the election in Iraq... me bad ...n/t

[understandinglife]

14. Well, they've been deploying the 82nd airborne, as well. Supposedly, ...

... this is to have something to do with the totally fake Constitution ratification process.

I suspect it's one of two things:

1. These totally crazy neoconster imperialists are going to wack Iran (and Syria) -- big, big bombs in certain parts of those countries, and control of the Southern Iranian oil fields with these troops; or,

2. They are deploying these troops to cover a withdrawl. Becuase, given the (non-declared) civil war status that is Iraq today, when we start to pull-out, we are going to be shooting our way out, all the way to the Kuwaiti and Saudi Arabian borders.

Either way, it's a bad sign. But, I certainly prefer # 2 to #1 (and probably do most of our troops).


Peace.

[cquik18]

15. What, AGAIN!?

Bush won't be happy till EVERY single SOLDIER is planted into the GROUND!

[Ilsa]

16. Is this a rotation? I don't see anything about it being a rotation. nt

[DemReadingDU]

17. anyone, 1 more vote for greatest page

thanks

[DemReadingDU]

18. kick for morning

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. So when exactly is the war aginst Iran starting?

that is my only explanation, and ..... *&*^^**&&&* one kid we know his unit is attached to the division... so I guess he is going

[Nothing Without Hope]

20. This looks to be the leadup to the attack of Iran.

The Bushies want it bad, and Congress has been giving them anything they want.

I wonder if this will be with or without a staged "Iranian" attack on us or some other target like an aircraft carrier or an Iraqi site to get the juices flowing?

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. I wonder how many aircraft carriers we will loose to their

subs?

I guess it is time to break the back of the Navy, lord knows every other service is broken and the AF is quite untouchable... I wonder if and when the nukes will be deployed

[leveymg]

24. I wouldn't want to be an Iranian submariner.

I'd count their average life expectancy in minutes in the event of any war with the US.

Their mobile, land-based anti-shipping missiles are much less vulnerable.

A recently leaked CIA assessment says it will be a decade before the Iranians have enough nuclear materials, at present rates of production capacity, to build its first A-bomb. That is, if we don't provoke them into putting many billions more into their weapons program.

[niallmac]

23. "The soldiers will be gone a year."

How long is a year in neocon dogs of war years? I always forget.

[leveymg]

26. Many lifetimes. n/t

[niallmac]

28. Oh man. Touche.

;(
Evil bastards!

[spooked]

27. It will be interesting to hear from these soldiers how Iraq has changed

since they were last there.

[Sunkiss BlueStar]

33. Oh my my my The Story

of the Arab dressin Brits must have been very inconvenient to TDITWH plans. Now they will have to up the clock on the Iran/Syria invasions. very very interesting :nuke: :yoiks:

[progressoid]

34. Hey, I was just reading about Ashton and Demi's wedding - why are you

talking about this stuff when there is news that affects millions of TV watchers all over the world?

[GreenPartyVoter]

35. :^( Not good

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. My oldest son was in that division. Glad he got out in '98.

[bvar22]

38. Combat Forces NOT qualified to train Law Enforcement!!!

Combat Troops are trained to KILL PEOPLE and Break Things.
They are NOT trained in Law Enforcement, nor should they be.
They ALSO should not be training ANYONE in Law Enforcement.
No wonder Iraq is in meltdown!

That would be like Brownie training people for Disaster Management!

[Brother Buzz]

41. Oh, come on. People are fungible. You can have them here or there.

Rummy, the ass