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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:14 AM
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Where's Fitzgerald? I thought it was "pay the piper" time!
Any updates? I'm hoping he makes his move SOON...

Peace.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:17 AM
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1. He has until the end of October, actually.
And if he didn't have anything, I think he would have folded his cards by now. Hopefully, he's just tying up loose ends and waiting for all the other scandals to die down.

:headbang:
rocknation
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:22 AM
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3. Thanks for that bit of hope!
:hi: I'm hoping that he nails these rat bastards to the wall!

Peace.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:49 AM
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8. I agree. If he had nothing he would have folded things up.
nt
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:51 AM
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9. So he has until the end of October
I thought it was the start?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:38 AM
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15. I think so too
He wouldn't have gone on for so long and wasited his time. He is supposivley one of the top prosecutors in the country so I doubt it personally. I can't wait to find out who goes to jail. I hope the whole lot of them do including Bush!
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:22 AM
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2. A similar post earlier today.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:23 AM
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4. So, I'm not the only impatient one? LOL!
Peace.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:37 AM
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7. Quite the contrary! It seems to be a bipartisan impatience!
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 12:41 AM by Verve
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:34 AM
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5. It's Not the End of October - YET!
:) I have hope w/that Grand Jury.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:35 AM
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6. Count me impatient!
The entire damn clusterfuck that is the beltway GOPers better be indicted!
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:54 AM
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10. I think its OCT 1
that is the end of his appointment

IF Fitzie don't get at least rover and scooter libby.
This Republic already on serious life support is done cuz the busheviks will have gotten every prize ...

the BFEE will truly be above the Law of the Land
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:56 AM
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11. Two different appointments
There's his appointment as U.S. Attorney for Northern Illinois and then there's his appointment as a Sepcial Prosecutore in the Plame affair.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:07 AM
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12. yes
I think though the plame gate is supposed to be finsihed on OCT 1 cwill try to recehck that
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:17 AM
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13. CS
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005/08/treasongate-us-attorney-generals.html

SAYS fitzie apponitment can carry on after it ends if there is evidence with Grand Jury approval NOW Iam no attornety and many at DU booed CS and me for psoting this BUT its worth a read..
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:37 AM
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14. are you kidding? this is facism
bad guys dont get caght, poor and disenfrachised become destitute, congressional leaders openly flaunt the law and are not held accountable
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:37 PM
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16. Fitzgerald investigations are ongoing and do not expire in OCT
even though his dates were set to expire in OCT

DOJ cannnot stop Fitzgerlad as he has ongoing 'plenary authority'
to pursue this Plame incidents beyond the expiaration date in OCT CS lays out the whole scheme and the MM complicity
in blacking out the info
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:00 PM
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17. August article of relevance about Fitzgerald
WHY CAN'T FITZGERALD BE FIRED AS SPECIAL COUNSEL?

"First, let me make it clear that Patrick Fitzgerald, while wearing the hat of US Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, can indeed be fired or replaced by President Bush. There's no doubt about that.

But Fitzgerald wears a different hat pertaining to Treasongate where he is the "Special Counsel" "Acting" and vested with the "full authority" of the "US Attorney General" to prosecute Treasongate. And as such, nobody in the Department of Justice can touch him.

Not only was it Comey's intention to prepare Fitzgerald for the coming assault on his legally mandated plenary authority by vesting him with complete autonomous rule, but the GAO, through their approval of "permanent indefinite appropriations" to perpetually fund Fitzgerald's office, at the request of the Justice Department, has made a strong legal argument, in Decision B-302582, that Fitzgerald has all of the protections and authority normally granted to an independent prosecutor under the expired independent counsel law."
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:07 PM
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18. Quit jostling his elbow. He's known for taking time to do it right & win.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:46 PM
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19. Well I read the current grand jury expires 10/28
And then he could ask for another one. Lordy-if he can't hang them by then though I think we are doomed.
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tableturner Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:55 PM
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20. There will be extreme pressure to end it in October
Fitz knows that if he extends the term of the grand jury, there will be, from a wide spectrum of the political world, much exasperation aimed at him. If he does ask for an extension, you can bet that BOTH 1 and 2 below will be true:

1) He has great reason to believe that specific people known to him have broken specific laws, also known to him.

2) He has a real need for more testimony and time to fully develop at least some of the indictments sure to come.

He's not going to go through the turmoil sure to follow an extension of the grand jury term, if he does not have a good idea that indictments will follow. If, after all this time, he has not found enough information to indict at least some people for some crimes, he's not going to continue on after 2 years. If he DOES extend, it's a matter of WHEN.....and not if.

Otherwise, we will find out something VERY soon, obviously. Yeah...I'll be getting nervous if we get very far into October without indictments or a request for an extension. However, we won't HAVE to know something of ANY stripe until the final day, October 28. IF he makes us all wait until October 28, or a few days before, for indictments, an extension request, or notice from his office that the investigation is finished without any indictments, he would be cruel indeed.
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