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Thu Sep-29-05 11:40 AM
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Photographic Proof of Global Warming (1979 Ice Cap vs. 2005 Ice Cap) |
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On the left is a satellite image from 1979, on the right, one from Sep. 21, 2005. How are the wingnuts going to explain this one away? Photo from the following article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9527485/
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:42 AM
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1. The fuckers will call it a correction and blame it on cowfarts nt |
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:42 AM
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2. They always explain it away by saying that it's a natural cycle |
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and *not* the result of human activity.
I have no idea how they can extrapolate that to mean somehow that we shouldn't be adding to the problem (and there's nobody who can believe that it's not a "problem" at least in the sense that we're going to have to deal with it).
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:48 AM
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6. The implication in that statement being |
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that human beings are not part of the "natural cycle", 'cause GAWD made the earth for humans to exploit, don'ya'know.
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:44 AM
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3. They'll claim you photoshopped the 1979 photo. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:47 AM
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4. Photos of, I think, Glacier Bay in Alaska |
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are even more terrifying. There are early photos by the explorers who "discovered" it in the 1800s, and then new photos, and it's enough to make you cry. I'll see if I can find them.
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:19 PM
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21. do you have a link? or know where those photos can be found? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 01:21 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
:hi:
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:06 PM
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23. This might be the one I remember of Muir Glacier, but I'm not sure |
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I think there's one that's even more dramatic... in 1899in 2003I got the photos from http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/climate_systems/climate_change.htmlReally, really terrifying. david
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:47 AM
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5. It's so horrible what has happened to our home |
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through global warming and people have the nerve to think it's a myth. *sigh* Even in the Bible the Lord tells us to look after our home because it's the only one we have. *Sigh*
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:50 AM
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7. They'll say it's a "normal fluctuation" and leave it at that |
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In fact, they'll say anything that sounds plausible. Because, they don't care. What they say and use are excuses, and none of this, up to and including planetary catastrophe, will stop them.
for one thing, they don't respect life, so there are no tears about the massive loss of wildlife
for another, they only respect the lives of Christians, and figure they've got all the advantages they need in strength of numbers, and screw the rest of the world. It's all about US
and finally, the wingnuts believe the world is going to end anyway
It doesn't matter what the proof is. Shrinking icecaps, melting icecaps, no icecaps. It doesn't matter what we say. Their only reaction will always be spin, because no matter how hard you hit them with the facts, they just don't care.
Likely they'd think caring would be a virtual violation of god BushCo's plan, and you can't have that, or you go to hell.
this stuff? I'm believing in my cynical heart that they like it. Seriously. Destroying stuff is...fun, and as they destroy the environment, they're "winning" the war on liberals and environmentalists. They rejoice in that picture. It means they're winning.
One who dies with the most toys wins
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:57 AM
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8. It doesnt show global warming but rather the end of the Cold War. |
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In 1979, the world was deeply involved in the Cold War. In the late eighties, the Soviet Union weakened and collapsed in the first years of the 1990's, thus "warming up" Eurasia. As the above illustrations show, the ice has retreated from the former Soviet Union, thus proof that it is a result of this "thawing" of the Cold War. This is a victory of the free world! Our next campaign? To crush the evil empire of Santa's North Pole!
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:01 PM
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11. But, we have always been at war with Eurasia |
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Or is it Eastasia?
I keep forgetting comrade.
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:57 AM
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and increased solar activity. It's proved by the fact that Mars is getting warmer as well.
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Thu Sep-29-05 11:59 AM
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for the great new real estate development opportunities in Hudson Bay.
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:03 PM
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12. That's easy to explain - - methane gas from cow manure! |
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Wasn't that the Reagan excuse?
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:04 PM
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13. Could be killer trees as well, you know (nt) |
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:38 PM
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16. I don't understand why that explanation is any less one of |
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human activity and something that needs to be addressed lest we make the earth uninhabitable to humans.
All of these issues need to be addressed.
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:20 PM
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14. They'll finally admit it exists but will dispute the cause. Heck, |
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the whole SOLAR SYSTEM is heating up, so I'm not sure anyone really understands the cause. Surely, cutting down trees and burning all kinds of fossil fuels ain't helpful, but there's prolly something bigger going on. Lots and lots of undersea volcanoes, and they ain't helping the ocean temps.
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:21 PM
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15. So, why is it melting faster on the Russian side? |
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:13 PM
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18. It looks like the Canadian Hudson Bay islands retain cold? |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM
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Don't you know that is God's way of punishing those atheistic heathens!
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:09 PM
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17. I made an animation of the different images |
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You can see how it's really been affected.
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:03 PM
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22. OK - that's even scarier. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:16 PM
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19. I'm sure the russians are delighted at the northwest passage |
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Shipping around the north of russia's gotta be the future.
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:17 PM
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20. Jebus! That is scary! |
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They'll say that one, the other, or both have been photoshopped.
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:10 PM
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
One more thread offering "proof" of a global phenomenon with a single regional effect.
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:34 PM
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27. They are claiming its cyclic...happens all the time....dats whot one bloke |
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tole me he did....
They are in Denial and in Delusion....can't be helped.
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Fri Sep-30-05 07:51 AM
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Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 07:51 AM by mogster
That's at least 25 percent gone, and the slowing North Atlantic cold water 'engine' is accellerating the process.
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Fri Sep-30-05 07:52 AM
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29. The new talking point is that "Global warming is real |
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but is part of a global warming and cooling trend, and is not caused by man".
Mainly, its just corporate apologist bullshit.
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Fri Sep-30-05 08:02 AM
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Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 08:02 AM by i_c_a_White_Ghost
You can archive back some 20 plus years, plus it gives almost real-time cryosphere conditions: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
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Fri Sep-30-05 08:03 AM
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31. That's Unbelievable!!! |
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