Judge issues ruling on ACLU vs. DoD torture pictures.

[Gregorian]

I'm still trying to figure out what it says. I just got the fax from the office of Judge Hellerstein.

http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02NYSC/05-05912.PDF


If that doesn't work for some reason go here-
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/public.htm

1 Click on CourtWeb
2 Click on CourtWeb On-Line Rulings
3 Select District Court for the Southern District of New York
4 Click Proceed to CourtWeb
5 select Hellerstein,Alvin K.
6 Change from date to 9/29/05
7 Click Run Report
8 Click View/print this runing.

[Don Claybrook]

1. try this url

http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02NYSC/05-05912.PDF

[Gregorian]

13. Thanks.

But it looks like the legal geniuses here have already figured it out.

And now, back to the rollercoaster ride from hell.

[babsbunny]

18. Forward this to Keith Olbermann

he might report on it!

[berni_mccoy]

2. He orders the gov't to release the docs

"I order the government to produce the Darby photographs that I have determined are responsive and appropriately redacted."


The plaintiffs win their motion and the defendents (gov't) lose their motion.

[ClassWarrior]

3. That's good, right?

I hope, I hope, I hope...

NGU.

[spuddonna]

4. Yeah, but do you think they'll really release them?

I'm waiting for the Pentagon to grab them and use some new stall technique...

[Alizaryn]

5. I read it as the Government has to release the photos!

(Thats me reading it fast sooo...)

[preciousdove]

19. Three courts have ruled the DOJ has to release my cousin-in-law..

for lack of any evidence. He picked up in the post 911 sweeps. His butt is still in prison in PA while his family langishes in OH.

I am always surprised when a court actually prevails against the BFEE.

[caligirl]

6. Need a lawyer, any here today?

I read the report and can't tell you anything either.

[Zynx]

7. Lots of case law. He is ordering the government to release photos.

[me b zola]

8. This is great news!

I just wish, though, that each of the judges that have ruled this way ordered the photos to be in the court at the time of the ruling so that they could be handed over then & there. Otherwise we may never see them.

[truebrit71]

9. This is a good thing. Either side has 20 days to appeal...

...what are the odds that the govt will appeal....:eyes:

[blogslut]

10. boogers

my old acrobat reader won't read page 50

[kimpossible]

11. AP news has it now

Here, via Yahoo news:

http://tinyurl.com/977cb

[rodeodance]

12. "must be released despite government claims that they could damage..Image"

Karen H. is going to be REAL buzy if indeed they are released.



Here, via Yahoo news:

http://tinyurl.com/977cb

By LARRY NEUMEISTER, Associated Press Writer 13 minutes ago

NEW YORK - Pictures of detainee abuse at
Iraq's
Abu Ghraib prison must be released despite government claims that they could damage America's image, a judge ruled Thursday.

[loudsue]

14. Boosh & rummy will just take it to the Supremes. And Roberts is now

Chief Justice. You don't think for ONE MINUTE that the Supremes will allow those photos released, do you?

This fight isn't anywhere NEAR over.

:kick:

[Theres-a]

15. Yep

F***ers.

[progressoid]

17. I'm afraid you might be right.

Sadly, by the time this gets resolved, not many will care.

[Poll_Blind]

20. "Sadly, by the time this gets resolved, not many will care."

I don't agree. This fairly ungraphic image of Nazi scum about to murder a group of men and child will resonate forever in the psyche of those who view it.



I say, the pictures have a life of their own and, when released, whenever released, they will tear many bricks out of the wall that Boosh has built up to protect his sanctioning of torture and possibly murder.

PB

[ClassWarrior]

16. This line is paydirt...

U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein ordered the release of certain pictures, saying terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have proven they "do not need pretexts for their barbarism."

It's applicable not only to the torture pictures, but also to the argument against timelines and exit strategies for Iraq.

NGU.