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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:46 PM
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When the pics and videos of children being raped are released
What will Americans do?

If you aren't familiar with the case, the court finally made a FINAL ruling that the DoD MUST release the most awful pictures of torture from Abu Gharib prison.

I have a feeling very bad things will happen because our government has sponsored policies of torture.

As an American, I am ashamed of what my government has done. I am also frightened of the consequences.

:scared:
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:48 PM
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1. It won't be reported
on the MSM unless they too start to get outraged and finally report on this Evil Administration!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:49 PM
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2. Before Katrina, I would agree with you...
now, I'm not so certain...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:50 PM
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4. the court ruling said they have 20 days to appeal.


.....If you aren't familiar with the case, the court finally made a FINAL ruling that the DoD MUST release the most awful pictures of torture from Abu Gharib prison.
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:49 PM
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3. They wont release them
They will ignore the court order.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM
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9. That's my prediction as well.
Rummy will go to jail for contempt of court before those photos see the light of day.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:53 PM
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12. I agree
Those pictures will never be released.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:50 PM
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5. This Is Not A FINAL Ruling. Link Here.
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 01:53 PM by DistressedAmerican
I have the PDF of the ruling open in front of me. It clearly says that there will be a 20 day stay on the handover to allow time for appeals.

Here is the link. The info is on the last page.

http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02NYSC/05-05912.PDF
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:51 PM
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6. Like we are. There are about four threads going on right now about
this...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4924996

Everyone will react to this...Bloggers will get it in front of everyone. No one will be able to avoid it and it will be a test of what kind of people US citizens are.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:51 PM
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7. Nothing. As usual.
And yes we are in great danger.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM
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8. Will GOP cultists see disconnect btwn "culture of life" and rape& torture?
Or will they "support our troops," to defend freedom. We can pray that some will stap out of the trance.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:56 PM
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28. No, because the rape and torture is of brown people...
and is in the name of the War on Terrah. Culture of life only refers to white people.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:16 AM
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29. Oh yeah, just like Jesus said.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:53 PM
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10. Who is 'giving comfort to the terrorists' now?!
Me, the peace protester

or these scumbags? Raping children? Apparently that's not as bad as peaceful protesting for an end to war and violence... or getting a blow job in your office...

:eyes:

:nuke:
grrrrrr
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:53 PM
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11. Would not pictures of rape
be considered pornography or inappropriate for publication?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:57 PM
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14. They've already released photos that could be classified as such...
piles of nude prisoners isn't?

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:05 PM
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19. They were able to blur out genitals
but a video of a rape is pretty hard to doctor. I'm afraid there are sickos who will actually get OFF on these videos.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:56 PM
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13. I believe it can still go to the Supreme Court?
Where it can be delayed some more. And then, assuming the SCOTUS upholds the verdict, you cna be sure of further foot dragging, and then only a partial release, and those will be heavilyn censored, perhaps even with claims that to release some material would be in violation of decency and anti-porn legislation, etc...

I'll be just as shocked to see this images come to the light of day as I am sure I will be shocked by the images themselves.

Besides, the mere fact of the desperate struggle against releasing these tells me all I need to know. It's not like they are lost. They are just damning.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:58 PM
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15. I confess to not having done a lot of reading about this topic.



Are the pics now in safe hands or is it possible they might be "lost" or "accidentally deleted" before court-ordered publication?


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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:00 PM
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17. The Washington Post has copies
Believe it or not.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:59 PM
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16. * and the DoD will not release them and will claim
executive privilege.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:02 PM
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18. How do we know the contents? Are they really pics of child rapes?
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:06 PM
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20. They are ALLEGED to be
No one knows for sure.
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Flavin Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:09 PM
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22. Tin-foil cap time....
What if this big FBI push against pornography is used to block citizen access to the film and pics due to their porno graphic and child-pornography subject matter...

Flavin
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:10 PM
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23. Child porn has been illegal for a long time; long before Abu Ghraib.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:09 PM
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21. nothing
i doesn`t matter to the american public. the american public have alot more to worry about than those pictures
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:22 PM
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24. No need to worry unless there is a just God in heaven or we reap what we
have sown.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:02 PM
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25. The photos will never be released.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:35 PM
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26. a flock of Winged Pigs will fly out of Limbaugh's ass before this happens
There are many things we can be sure of in this life, and one of them is that the bushistas will stonewall this footage until the very end, then burn down the pentagon and claim it was lost in the fire.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:54 PM
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27. did they give a date they have to be released. n/t
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:10 AM
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30. Nothing. EOM
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:54 AM
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31. Is "Survivor" on that night?
I figure many Americans don't consider brown children being raped to be that much of an issue. (After all, they're just going to grow up to be infidel suicide bombers anyway. :sarcasm:)

So, they'll consider it a smear campaign against the troops, and turn back to their reality TV, football season, whatever.
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