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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:56 AM
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FREAKER TINFOIL - Damn if this isn't some of the funniest crap I've ever
read. OK, Ok, first of all I must tell you I go there maybe 2 to 3 times a year. It's just that things have been blowing up in their kool-aid drenched faces right and left lately. I had to look.

What follows is some of the most amusing and delicious babble I've ever read. Enjoy.



Posted on 09/30/2005 9:16:16 PM PDT by andie74


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - After 85 days in jail for refusing to name her source, New York Times reporter Judith Miller testified on Friday about conversations with a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney to a grand jury investigating who leaked the name of a CIA operative.

Legal sources close to the case said Miller, who was freed on Thursday, gave the federal grand jury in Washington a detailed account of two conversations she had in July 2003 with Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Miller said she agreed to testify about the conversations only after receiving what she called a "personal, voluntary" waiver of confidentiality from her source. Miller said the source had conveyed the waiver in the form of a letter and a phone call to her in jail.

Though Miller declined to publicly name Libby outside of the grand jury room, attorneys in the case said he was her source. During her testimony, one source said, "she walked them through those conversations."

After obtaining her waiver, Miller said her lawyers secured an agreement with Fitzgerald to narrow the scope of her testimony to her conversations with that single source.

Lawyers close to the case said Miller's testimony appeared to clear the way for prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to wrap up his two-year-old inquiry into who leaked CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity and whether anyone broke the law in doing so.

Plame's diplomat husband, Joseph Wilson, said the administration had leaked her name, damaging her ability to work undercover, to get back at him for criticizing President George W. Bush's Iraq policy.

The lawyers said Fitzgerald could now move quickly to bring indictments in the case, or he could conclude that no crime was committed and end his investigation and possibly issue a report on his findings.


(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: CIA; CIALEAK; SCOOTERLIBBY
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1 posted on 09/30/2005 9:16:16 PM PDT by andie74
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So....Miller isn't required to divulge the source of her information after all. They just wanted her testimony on the conversation with Libby? What a waste of time and money.



2 posted on 09/30/2005 9:19:00 PM PDT by jess35
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Judith Miller Flashback:

Reporters' Files Subpoenaed

New Leak Probe Concerns 2001 Raid on Islamic Charity

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9890-2004Sep9.html

This is the real reason Judith Miller went to jail...



3 posted on 09/30/2005 9:19:15 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Methinks Miller was really questioned about tipping off an Al Qaeda fundraiser to an upcoming federal raid. The Plame deal is a distraction.



4 posted on 09/30/2005 9:20:47 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Gee, the timing here is just amazing! What happened to her integrity? The left is so disgustingly transparent.



5 posted on 09/30/2005 9:21:00 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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After obtaining her waiver, Miller said her lawyers secured an agreement with Fitzgerald to narrow the scope of her testimony to her conversations with that single source.
This smells.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 9:21:22 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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After obtaining her waiver, Miller said her lawyers secured an agreement with Fitzgerald to narrow the scope of her testimony to her conversations with that single source.
She didn't spend all the time is jail to cover for Libby

She is covering for someone else


7 posted on 09/30/2005 9:22:42 PM PDT by Mo1
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She's covering for the government official who tipped her off to an upcoming raid on an Al Qaeda fundraiser. The fundraiser was able to destroy documents prior to the raid.



8 posted on 09/30/2005 9:24:10 PM PDT by jimbo123
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That is my thinking also



9 posted on 09/30/2005 9:24:58 PM PDT by Mo1
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Though Miller declined to publicly name Libby outside of the grand jury room, attorneys in the case said he was her source...

aren't these leaks against the law ?

10 posted on 09/30/2005 9:27:46 PM PDT by stylin19a
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:00 AM
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1. Not well-versed in the law are they?
Or in grand jury procedure?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:00 AM
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2. She's Al Qaeda!
Of course! How could I not see that?
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:22 AM
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7. They're right in a way. CIA = Al Queda = they are lying to all of us...
to harvest the wealth of the lower, muddle and lower upper classes as well as all US assets.

They just haven't had the "aha" moment that leads to the last "="
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:34 AM
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13. Al Quaida, however it's spelled, is a creation of the CIA.
Formed to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:31 AM
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10. I missed the head scarf
I may have been jumping up and down too wildly when the annoucement came. :rofl:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:33 AM
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12. The "terraists" weren't wearing beards and cloaks, either.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:06 AM
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3. I have to disagree - not all this is so off the wall.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 01:07 AM by leveymg
In fact, Judy did drop a dime to an Islamic Charity just before it was raided by the FBI in 2001. She was questioned about that by the FBI.

That was one of the incidents that resulted in the Judge ordering her jailed for contempt.

Not really tin foil hat. Why do you think so?

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:15 AM
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4. What Islamic Charity?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:32 AM
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11. Something called Global Relief Foundation.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 01:36 AM by Marie26
I never knew this: apparently Fitzgerald has investigated Miller in the past, in 2001, to find out the government source that tipped her off to the FBI raid of the "charity." The NY Times had then alerted the charity & gave them time to destroy incriminating documents. Miller claimed "confidential source" privilege in that case too, & the Supreme Court upheld the privilege. That could explain why Fitzgerald was so willing to play hardball in this case. This whole story just gets weirder & weirder.

Source: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0529,rozen,66002,6.html
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:25 AM
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9. I just checked and it is an ongoing investigation as to her apparent
inadvertent divulging of information.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:16 AM
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5. This one is the best
So....Miller isn't required to divulge the source of her information after all. They just wanted her testimony on the conversation with Libby? What a waste of time and money.
:rofl:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:19 AM
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6. Want liberal tinfoil? Look no farther than our own 9/11 Forum.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:35 AM
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14. I missed the part in my post where U thought I said there was no "liberal"
tinfoil?

Show us please?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:40 AM
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16. I missed the part in my post where I said you did...
Just pointing out that there are deluded extremists on both sides of the fence...

...not implying that you claimed the contrary.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:14 AM
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23. Yes, there are, but...
Quite a number of them raise really good questions that need answers. Not all the deluded are actually deluded. It is likely there are disinformation artists there also. The polite word for that is spin.

In the case at hand, I think the narrowing of scope does smell, but, I also think that Fitz made a command decision that getting some of what he needs now is better than getting all she knows later. There will be court testimony to come and the narrowed scope will not apply then.

-Hoot
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:25 AM
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8. They nthink Judy Miller represents the left?
That's really delusional.

And I don't remember them being so concerned about the legality of leaks when they were coming from Ken Starr's office.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:37 AM
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15. They think she's in with the terra-rists.
and the lihbrul media is right there with her.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:02 AM
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17. Actually I think they are starting to get some of it.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 02:11 AM by Carolab
"questioned about tipping off an Al Qaeda fundraiser to an upcoming federal raid. The Plame deal is a distraction."

This has a lot of truth to it. What they don't get here is that Val Plame was working on getting Al Qaeda information and the leak blew her whole network open. What did Val find? Was it anything like what John O'Neill uncovered? And how did it relate to the outing of Khan?

http://www.crisispapers.org/essays/pravda.htm
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:05 AM
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18. 'She is covering for someone else.' Let me guess...BILL CLINTON?
:crazy:

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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:17 AM
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21. Of Course, that's it.......I always forget it's gotta be BILL. n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:12 AM
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19. Well, maybe there were some documents they didn't want us to see
From that Al Qaeda group. Ones that would make certain people look bad. :shrug:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:20 AM
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22. aren't these leaks against the law?
Bwahahaha!!!

:rofl:
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