Miers = Clarence Thomas

[mattclearing]

She will do whatever she is told out of loyalty and gratitude.

I see no reason to believe that she has the background or the constitution to be a strong or independent voice on this court.

She will be a Bush/Right Wing puppet, just like Thomas before her.

Discuss.

[goclark]

1. The Brownie Twins = His and His? His and Hers? Whatever

[mattclearing]

2. Not sure I get what you're saying.

I'm saying that Thomas was someone who was nominated by a Bush because

A> He was black, and gave Bush non-racist points when he desperately needed them, and

B> He could be counted on to rule any way the Bushes wanted him to.

Miers was nominated because

A> She's a woman, and everyone said Bush needed a woman this time, and

B> She's loyal and proven as far as Bush is concerned. She will do what she is told.

[FourStarDemocrat]

5. I think the 1st post was refering to Michael Brown, as in another cronie.

One thing we know for sure, Bush doesn't care about substance in any position. He likes his cronies, especially the ones that can protect him and line his pockets.

[goclark]

4. I say they are both underqualified for the position

They are just like Brownie FEMA for Bush.

[mattclearing]

6. Got it. n/t

[Selatius]

3. Kiss Roe V. Wade goodbye if the Senate confirms her

[Zynx]

7. Old pro-Roe majority was 6-3.

Roberts replacing Rehnquist keeps it at 6-3 and possibly makes it 7-2(I'm not totally convinced he would overturn Roe) and even IF Miers is a pro-life zealot, the vote is 5-4. Last time I checked, 5-4 is a majority.

Kennedy, Breyer, Ginsburg, Stevens, and Souter are all pro-Roe.

[charlie]

9. Kennedy is not dependably pro-Roe

He had to be lobbied hard to switch from Rehnquist's position in Planned Parenthood vs Casey. In recent years he's been signalling the return of his old discomfort with Roe.

Kennedy seems to have a history of sitting between positions with anguish as the two sides of the court tug at him, probably the most notable being the Florida fiasco. Breyer stills thinks if he had another 24 hours, he could've flipped Kennedy for Gore. Doesn't say much for Kennedy's convictions as a jurist.

[Zynx]

10. In an actual vote that would decide the fate of Roe, I doubt he would

vote to overturn. He doesn't seem like the sort of guy who would want to go down in history as the creator of absolute political chaos on the state and local level.

[Arkana]

11. Exactly. People make such a stink about Roe, but they forget:

the judge who tips the balance of the scale will live in infamy forever.

[charlie]

13. Thin thread to hang our hopes on

In any calculus I wouldn't count on Kennedy's vote. Whichever side gang-presses him most effectively is the one that prevails. On Roe v Wade, that used to include O'Connor. No more.

[Zynx]

14. I rely on my fundamental belief the Republican establishment does not

want Roe overturned*. Besides, I am more than willing to bet Kennedy would not vote to overturn Roe in a serious vote. I think that vote is as reliable as Souter's in that regard.

*Ever notice that a majority of Republican appointed justices since Nixon have been pro-choice?

[HappyMoonBat]

8. ...with boobies.

Sorry, had to do it.

[mattclearing]

15. Nice one. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[Piperay]

12. All this RW outrage is totally phoney

she is nothing but one of them and I 'hope' the Democrats don't fall for it but I'm sure they will. :mad:

[mattclearing]

16. We'll see. n/t