"FLAWED INDICTMENT"

[Beetwasher]

Ok people, get ready, this is the spin, but here's what I see as the REAL story:

Remember when Delay was first indicted? He waived the statute of limitations on the charge of conspiracy. It was a lesser charge than money laundering and there was speculation that he copped a deal. I think that's still operative, only he decided to go BACK on his word. The prosecutor decided to go ahead w/ the more serious charges. The grand jury today was probably presented w/ the ALL THE WORK and EVIDENCE and FINAL REPORT that was all ready to go. THAT'S why it turned in it's verdict so quickly. It was all nicely wrapped up in tight little bow and just waiting for Delay to be the piece of vermin he is and go back on his deal to plead to the lesser charge. Earle struck like a viper.

[rzemanfl]

1. It could happen. n/t

[Talismom]

2. Oh this is really getting exciting! Time to pay the piper Tom! n/t

[hang a left]

3. I was wondering how that went down.....

are speculating or is that how it is?

[Beetwasher]

5. Pure Speculation

But I think it's the most likely explanation that would explain the events, including the initial waiver. Why would Delay ever give them that waive unless he copped a plea? He copped a plea so as to not be indicted on money laundering, which can carry a life sentence.

[madokie]

22. Correct me if I'm wrong but on the 6 pm CBS news

Delay has been indicted on money laundring.

[Beetwasher]

26. Yup, That's What We're Discussing!

The new indictments. There are actually TWO new ones!

[madokie]

28. Thanks, Its good and getting better

:popcorn:

[Walt Starr]

4. He reneged on his plea bargain

and so Earle is coming at him with both barrels. He'll seek prison time, too.

I figure DeLay will spend at least three years behind bars in this one, and it will be in a penintentiary not a jail. He could have gotten off with no time in prison at all.

[hang a left]

9. woooooohoooooooo

tell me it is not federal. Tell me he could end up in say....Huntsville! :evilgrin:

[Walt Starr]

11. 100% State of Texas charges, thus all time would be spent in Texas. n/t

[texpatriot2004]

13. Oh that's fantastic! Huntsville. Ha. LOL. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

23. Probably end up in Seagoville

:shrug:

[texpatriot2004]

14. What did he do to go back on the plea bargain? n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. He tried to get the charges dismissed

which means he reneged on his end of the deal. Plus mouthing off about the prosecutor probably didn't help him much.

[texpatriot2004]

25. Really, stupid idiot, a deal with no jail time and he's gotta go get

all arrogant and pushy and whiny...

Tom DeLay has it coming to him; he's getting what he deserves.

[never_get_over_it]

15. One word for you regarding prison time

PARDON

[Walt Starr]

17. It sure as hell can't come from Bush! He CAN'T Pardon Delay on this

It'd take Governor Goodhair to do it.

[never_get_over_it]

27. Oh they'll find a way

they always do.....remember all these guys know where the other guys bodies are burried - they have to take care of each other.

I'm waiting for the day when they don't get away with it anymore!!!!

[Kingofalldems]

6. Why didn't they announce the plea bargain Friday?

Did Delay renege earlier than that?

[Beetwasher]

8. They Would Never Publicize That

Not right away anyway, it would only become evident in court when he entered his plea. Delay would want it kept as quiet as possible for as long as possible.

[Walt Starr]

10. Plea Bargains are never "announced"

They are made behind closed doors. You only know there was a plea bargain after the plea is entered, and then only by looking at the plea, the potential charges, and the sentence.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. Someone analyzed the indictment last Friday

and if you read between the lines, it looked like Delay had made a deal to plead guilty to a lesser charge.

[CatWoman]

7. I love it when you talk dirty

:D

[Beetwasher]

12. Nothing Dirtier than Laundered Money!

Oh yea baby! Talk to me about felonies!! :evilgrin:

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Not too many people know

that Jeb Bush's longtime business partner Armando Codina first made himself rich laundering drug money.

[Occulus]

29. And THAT begs the question

How was the money laundered and who was involved?

[burythehatchet]

16. dirt, dirty girl

:)

[CatWoman]

24. who? me?

O8)

[Redstone]

20. You could be on to something there.

And I fervently hope that you are right.

Redstone

[Beetwasher]

30. .

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[jsamuel]

31. yep

[converted_democrat]

32. Makes good sense...

I was convinced early on that a deal had been struck. I mean, why else would his lawyer waive? Nothing else makes sense. I hope Delay is shitting his pants right now. Something gives me a feeling reneging wasn't a bright move, Earle wasted no time putting the smack down on that plan. Having your lawyer on talk shows 24 hours a day to attack a DA isn't very bright either. Money Laundering can carry a life term, no? Earle is much brighter that the right wing gives him credit for.

[Beetwasher]

33. Yup, Possible Life Sentence

Though I highly doubt that would happen.

[converted_democrat]

35. Oh, I know he won't end up getting life out it.....

I would think though, if he is found guilty, he won't be walking away without jail time. With that plea, I doubt he would have done any jail time at all. If he's guilty, he'll do time. Yea! Hell, I don't even care if it's a couple years, I just want to see his ass behind bars.

[Richard Steele]

34. This is EXACTLY what I thought when I heard of the new indictments.

I was saying this same thing to my sweetie yesterday
(as I did my little happy-dance).

The first indictment makes it clear
that Delay had cut a deal;
there's really NO other explanation
for the statement that he had
WAIVED HIS RIGHTS re: the statute of limitations UNDER ADVICE OF COUNSEL.

But part of a "plea bargain" is KEEPING YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN;
Delay, arrogant and drunk on his own power,
just couldn't bring himself to honor his own WORD.

Then, after breaking the deal,
he and his lawyer spend an entire week on national TV
SLANDERING the prosecutor they had made the deal with.

Not smart. Not smart at all.

[Tight_rope]

36. No the roach killer is not as smart as he thought he was...he's not a

lawyer...and the one he's got has prove to be a dumbass too.