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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:24 PM
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Know what term I hate, I despise: "Democrat (sic) Party"
That moron DeLay referred to the party that way in some interview, and I also heard Senator Cornyn of Texas say "Democrat (sic) Presidents" during the Roberts hearings.

Nothing new, but...Hey morons! the proper adjective is DEMOCRATIC!

More of some word games from the right to bastardize the language and manipulate public debate. I'd guess it was spawned at one of Gingrich's old schools for Repubs.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 PM
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1. and I blast each and every person who uses that phrase, pointing out what
ignorant, lousy english it is.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 PM
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2. They do it deliberately
They don't want people associating the Democratic party with democracy or democratic ideals. Democrats, on the other hand, are associated with liberals, whom they have effectively demonized in the national discourse. "Democrat" party sounds harsher and implies distaste for it's members.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:33 PM
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7. Bingo!
Besides, the Democratic Party is the only "democratic" party!! The repukes walk in lock step, we are many voices who struggle to find the path to serve us all, hence we are democratic:)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:25 AM
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25. Even if we yell at each other sometimes
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:18 AM
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30. Exactly right
We may yell at each other sometimes, but that is only because we are truely individuals who approach the same problem from a different angle. But in the end we want the same things.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:36 PM
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8. I think it's dialect
Southern Redneck, to be precise.

It's like here in Missouri. The politicians pronounce it 'mizzurah' to get in with the country folk, whose roots go back to Tennessee and Kentucky. Only the city folk pronounce it 'mizurrie'.

What does all this say about our country?
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:37 PM
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9. Thanks for that summary of the reasoning
It does have a harsh, unnatural sound to it. It's one way to determine if a candidate or office holder has went through the indoctrination process on right wing tactics and is a true believer.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:29 AM
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27. This came up on Franken today
It IS deliberate, and was used by the EXTREME right as "code" during the era of McCarthy....

of course NOW look how widespread the usage is....(thank you conservative media....)
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 PM
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3. AHH
I know! Those fucknuts need to learn how to speak properly. Democrat is a noun and democratic is an adjective. You can't fucking describe a noun with a noun! GAAAAHHHHH
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:30 PM
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4. Always say it with a southern accent
"The Dimycrat Party"
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:30 PM
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5. I think the Democratic Leaders should start saying ....
"Repub President"
"Repub Senator"
"Repub Congressmen"

When the Republicans complain, say: "When you start speaking correct English..We'll do the same".
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:33 PM
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6. This one goes back to the Nixon days
I know I remember hearing John Connally saying it, probably during the 1972 campaign. It was partly a deliberate attempt to be annoying and partly an unconscious acknowledgement by the party of Nixon that they themselves were not on the side of democracy and couldn't bear to be reminded that anybody else was.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:37 PM
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10. Had Connally changed parties or something? nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:30 AM
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29. John Connally switched parties, yes
eom
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:39 PM
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11. That's why they say it...to piss us off. Democrat Party is better than
REPUKE PARTY :evilgrin:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:40 PM
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12. Democrat is not an adjective. n/t
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Obiepup Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:42 PM
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13. Democrat is a noun
n/t
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:13 AM
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18. I'm a contraction. n/t
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 12:14 AM by dweller
:D

edit: whoops, forgot this: ,
dp
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:48 PM
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14. Part Of Newt Gingrichs 'Word List
Issued in '93-94

It actually lets you immediatly identify a Kool-Aid drinker of the Right Wing, right off the bat.

http://www.citypaper.com/columns/story.asp?id=9338
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:00 AM
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15. I have been ranting about that for months, too! Glad someone else has
noticed and is pissed.
I think we ought to refer to reThugs as 'regressives' or 'stone-agers' or something more appropriate to what they are trying to do to our country.
They sure as shit are not true conservatives...
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:02 AM
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16. And the proper noun for a member of the "Republican Party" is "fasicst"
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 12:02 AM by NYC Liberal
;)
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:11 AM
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17. I am always suspect of a post on this board when
that term is used.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:17 AM
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20. I've noticed that too; it's a bad sign
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:14 AM
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19. It's a GOP talking point.
That's how they are told to phrase it, without exception. It's not just a dialect thing either because I hear it from every part of the country, especially here in New England.
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David Briggs Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:24 AM
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23. Kerry did it too.
Presidential candidate John Kerry occasionally referred to the "Democrat" Party during his campaign. The first time I heard him do that, I knew right then and there the race was lost.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:19 AM
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21. Do take this the wrong way but...

The part of speech change is the same as one from the blackest part of modern history. namely:

Democtratic politician is to democrat politician as
Jewish banker is to Jew banker.

It's insulting, demeaning, and deliberately meant to be a slur.
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_Loki_ Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:29 AM
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28. as if...
..."retardican" and "freeper" are not?

Hey, I've got no particular dog in this fight. But I haven't ever really thought that fighting wrong with wrong was right.....



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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:30 AM
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31. Ummm . . . Freepers chose the name themselves. They invented the term
So no, it's not in any way degrading (with the exception that being a Freeper is indicative of a lack of cognitive capacity).
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:04 AM
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35. There is a big difference between people using those phrases on a
discussion board and our barely-literate-retarded-fuck-wad of a president using the term. It's poor English at best and an insult to half of the country at worst.

OH my oh my! Think of the children!!!

Is our children learning indeed.
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_Loki_ Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:41 PM
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39. Not really.
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 07:41 PM by _Loki_
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There is a big difference between people using those phrases on a discussion board and our barely-literate-retarded-fuck-wad of a president using the term.
------------------

If the term is intended to be degrading to someone, it does not matter who is saying it or when it is being used. Don't get me wrong, I'm not passing some kind of holier-than-thou moral judgement, but logically, there is no difference between the Bushiites and Bush himself using "Democrat" and someone here using "Retardican" (or...fuck-wad...), if it is intended as degredation.



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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:24 AM
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40. I was referring to the leader of the free world using a derogatory
phrase and people posting a derogatory phrase on an ANONYMOUS CHAT BOARD.

If you can't see the distinction, then.... well, good luck with living lala land.
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_Loki_ Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:41 PM
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41. There is no distinction...
....in terms of whether or not it is "right" to do so.
The act itself is the same, regardless of the source.




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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:23 AM
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22. The freep*rs are loving this thread. This is all about getting folks
pissed off. Al Franken had a good response. If he hears it, he responds with Publican party, long U. Pubescent. It's got a nice ring and will drive them batty.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:24 AM
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24. That gets me too
*sigh* It's really annoying. I'm like: "It's Democratic!" On this republican site I read earlier of a canidate this person called it "democrat party" too. Oy!
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:26 AM
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26. Hey, I call them RETARDICANS so ya know.I guess I can say
Yeah, I am sick....Sick of Republicans !:rofl:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:51 AM
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32. What I have even more of a problem with
are those on our side who take up use of the term. Special kind of stupid.

Julie
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:56 AM
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33. Any Democrat who uses the term Democrat Party or
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 10:31 AM by ISUGRADIA
Democrat Presidents etc. needs to be told he or she is being a tool of the fascist right. That it's poor English would be enough in itself.

EDIT spelling
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:09 AM
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36. Wholly agree! Every person from "the left" appearing on MSM
needs to start responding comments with, "Interesting since there is no such party; We are called the Democratic Party. But to respond to your comment about <fill in blank>, the DEMOCRATIC Party believes..."
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:57 AM
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34. Dumbya just said it
about 25 minutes into his tuesday news conference he said 'democrat party'.

gawdam subliminables
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:32 AM
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37. I've heard Hannity and Ingraham use it
...and that really tells me all I need to know; that is, if they use it, it has to be intended as an insult. (And no, I don't listen to them regularly, I just sometimes pass them on the dial when I'm flipping around on the radio whenever I drive to my parents' house over in Arkansas.)

My favorite counter to that was used by Jonathan Alter on Franken's show a while back: Resmuglican. I love it. :)
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:40 AM
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38. Every time one of them says that
Their democratic counterpart should turn and ask them if they are ignorant. I never hear them get corrected.
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