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Tue Oct-04-05 12:57 AM
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Make no mistake about it: Schumer was referring to US here at DU when he |
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Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 01:40 AM by Obiepup
was talking about 'left wing extremists'.
He thinks we are in the same league as the KKK and the Aryan Nation on the right.
That slander was directed at you and me.
The power has gone to his head. People are telling him to come out and attack us.
We need to take Washington back.
We are the mainstream. Not Schumer and his ilk
Edited to add: Right wing talk radio frequently uses the term 'far left'.
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Tue Oct-04-05 12:58 AM
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Back up your statment, please.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:02 AM
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6. Well not DU specifically but |
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your average DUer with progressive beliefs, morals and ideals.
He thinks that makes on an extremist.
He must think stamping out bigotry is the mark of a 'left wing extremist' as an example.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:24 AM
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Pure conjecture.
I am an average DUer and I neither consider myself an extremist nor believe I am viewed as one.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:25 AM
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31. Same here but I fear Schumer does not see me the same way n/t |
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:49 PM
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If you don't have anything to back that up it was really dumb to say, if you do - let's hear it already.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:00 AM
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2. Welcome to DU, Obiepup! |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:05 AM
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Thanks for the kind welcome
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:00 AM
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3. Now Schumer is a DLC stooge? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:02 AM
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4. Maybe- but what did he say? Link? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:04 AM
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9. There are a couple of threads on it floating around |
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:47 AM
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44. Put them floating links up so we can read em. |
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Other wise you're not making much sense.
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Tue Oct-04-05 07:08 AM
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47. Here's a thread from yesterday: |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:07 AM
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12. He was talking about the Mier's nomination and said |
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he thinks Bush has figured out that the religious radical right doesn't represent the republican party just as the "far left" doesn't represent the Democartic Party. :grr:
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:02 AM
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5. No, just you, not the rest of us. |
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:-) (I'm teasing.)
Welcome to DU!
But Schumer was just trying to earn mainstream brownie points, like Bush does when he pretends to be moderate. Or literate. Or sober. Or sane. Or anything resembling a human more than an evil fungus.
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:45 AM
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42. "Or literate. Or sober. Or sane." |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:03 AM
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7. Hey! I saw you on the "Indictment thread"... |
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Still trying to raise some hell, huh?
That slander was directed at you and me.
No. Schumer was referring to EXTREMISTS. Kinda like the ones in the WH.
Peace.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:09 AM
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16. What's a "LEFT" extremist? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:03 AM
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8. Sounds like he was talking about some folks here.... |
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"We are the mainstream. Not Schumer and his ilk" Guess again, bunkie.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:07 AM
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11. So, I'll be flamed for this... |
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But who is "US at DU"? You've been here 48 hours.
(I've already slammed Schumer, I voted for him, and I reserve that right)
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:07 AM
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14. registered DU members n/t |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:10 AM
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I have reason to be suspicious of new members who are here speaking for "us", while they attack Democrats. Even those that piss me off.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:14 AM
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25. I respect your opinion |
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but if a Democrat needs to be criticized or attacked IMHO, I will not hesitate to do so.
I feel it is my duty to speak out.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:16 AM
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And if my paranoia is unjustified, I apologize.
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:42 PM
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51. Your paranoia is certainly reasonable |
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and I share it, as well as your concern. One to watch I say.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:08 AM
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15. No you won't. Good question |
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Forty eight whole hours you say? Isn't that long enough?
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:07 AM
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13. Speak for yourself, dude |
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If the extremism fits, wear it.
But I think he was talking about folks probably more to the left of the party, folks with their own agenda. Folks who will react to Meiers from the Left the way the farther Right is reacting.
Both sides are pissed. I wonder if that makes her a moderate.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:09 AM
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17. Oooh, I can see where this is going... |
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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:09 AM
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18. I'll welcome you to DU |
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When you post a link to confirm your allegation. This isn't FR, we don't tolerate unsubstiated rumors.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:14 AM
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24. It is not an unsubstantiated rumor.... |
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there has been several threads today on it. Use the search function instead of being rude.
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:17 AM
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29. Didn't mean to be rude |
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Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 01:22 AM by liberaltrucker
I just keep a dose of skepticism handy. I work for a living-not online constantly-where's the link?
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:10 AM
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20. I'm starting to think I'm an "extremist." |
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I believe in a national single-payer healthcare plan.
What is WITH these Dems who keep trying to go after to the rightwing voters? Screw them. GO AFTER THE MORE THAN HALF THE CITIZENS WHO NO LONGER VOTE!
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:12 AM
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Listen, learn, but never be afraid to express yourself! Keep posting!
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Obiepup
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:13 AM
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23. Thank you for the kind advice |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:12 AM
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22. Don't loose any sleep over it Obiepup. |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:15 AM
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26. I'll try not to. Thanks |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:16 AM
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All I have to say from now on is "Screw the DLC."
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:33 PM
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50. Schumer is DLC? Holy hell, toss those aspirin downthread some, willya? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:26 AM
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:37 AM
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33. I think he was talking about DLCers |
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:evilgrin:
Seriously, I will not be demonized by some popinjay, tin plated Senator from NY. If he doesn't like the fact that the Democratic party has liberals in it, he can bite me. Fuck him. I've got a very nice letter to him which I'm dropping in the mail in the AM. :sarcasm:
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Tue Oct-04-05 01:42 AM
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... feel free to wear it.
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Tue Oct-04-05 03:05 AM
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35. "Us here on the DU" - did you mean the people who belonged to DU before or |
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after Oct. 2nd 2005? :shrug:
Because, I see you are referring to yourself as us on the DU and you just joined and I've belonged here for over a year+ and I saw Schumer speak today on C-Span (also saw him on the Daily Show last week) and I don't see him as referring to "me" and others on the DU as the "extremists".....
Personally I have no issue with Schumer....I don't take his comment as an offense....I think that he's "playing the word game" with the right wing....
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:07 AM
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I'd say the self importance is getting outta hand around here.
If you mean the sorts of people who post here, I suppose Dem "leadership" tends to be less than appreciative of those who want them to show a spine.
Julie
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:09 AM
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37. He is not talking about us.He's talking about way way left. |
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:49 AM
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Well I'd hardly say DU is "far left", sure there are some here who are but we've got plenty of corporatist apologists, moderates, moles etc.
Of course a reich winger can't see more than one layer at a time so that explains the misconception that DU is "far left". Read one post by a far-leftist and the whole board is so.
Julie
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Wed Oct-05-05 03:45 AM
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59. No he is talking about progressives |
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this is the other elephant in the room... there is a movement by some in the leadership led by the DLC, to drive progresives of any stripe out. And reality is, it is to be expected... but no he was not referring to International Answer but to Kucinich, and Wellstone and the rest of the gang... that may not be you... I suspect it is not you... but it is many Democrats.
Why is this going on? Oh many reasons... I could write a hsitorical treatise on it, but I need sleep.
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:09 AM
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:11 AM
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40. Schumer is my senator. Sometimes I really |
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like him, sometimes I think he is bogus. Generally, he is okay. No complaints about his recent vote on Roberts. The "there are far left wing and far right wing elements " stuff is sheer boilerplate. It is, quite honestly, the rhetorical equivalent of some Democratic Congressman saying "my honorable colleague" when talking about Delay or something. I mean it is not like Schumer morphed into Bill O'Reilly who uses the term "far left" to describe Schumer. And this is from someone who, reasonably, could be considered relatively far left ( last time I looked Michael Harrington was getting ready to roll the rock back and take a stroll).
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:41 AM
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A hearty FUCK YOU to ya this morning!
Or, as we say in TX, "FUCK ALL Y'ALL" !!!
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:46 AM
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43. Today, I will (verbally) slap down any idiot who |
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plays with words as Schumer has. Who gives a flying fuck what these criminals say? They have DESTROYED AMERICA!!!!!! Do their words really matter to anyone?
Tell them all to go to hell and don't take anything they say seriously. They all need to be kicked firmly in the ass and sent to live under the Theocracy they so desire. Afghanistan is nice this time of year, I hear.
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:50 AM
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Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 06:50 AM by sfexpat2000
lol
And, why don't people think words are important? The "word game" is how the nut wing managed to pretend it was the middle and tried to disappear the left altogether. The words matter.
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Tue Oct-04-05 06:59 AM
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46. I just believe we need to ignore the idiots |
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They've been shoving the same shit down our throats for years. Has it changed you or me? We are still raging liberals and always will be. I know that is true about me, anyway.
Let the ignorant fucks say what they want. When we get upset it only feeds their sick need to attack what's good and promote what's wrong. Counter every attack with one of your own. I don't take ANY SHIT from these fools. Their empty words mean NOTHING to me.
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Tue Oct-04-05 07:15 AM
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48. Schumer meant the Dems do not want to "Free Mumia".... |
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and most at DU would agree with him if the ANSWER threads were any indication.
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Wed Oct-05-05 03:07 AM
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58. Quite honestly I don't believe he meant ANSWER but |
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if it amkes you feel better, he did.
Quite frankly he did not mean IA... he meant the progresives IN THE PARTY and IA is not part of the party.
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:30 PM
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49. I think we need to flush out our economic policies. Why would we |
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be isolationist when there will be 3 Billion middle class (10 times that in the west today)in the next 40 years? Why would we want to not access those markets in India, China, Russia & Brazil & South America?
Being for trade does not mean we have to be against universal health care or fair trade or anything else.
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:47 PM
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52. I must have made that mistake |
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Somehow I didn't think everyone at DU was a left wing extremist.
I'm glad we have you here to tell us this.
Oh...welcome to DU. And I'll let you in on a secret. DU is not necessarily mainstream.
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Tue Oct-04-05 05:52 PM
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54. Without proof this post isn't worth much |
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:think: :puffpiece: :banghead:
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Wed Oct-05-05 02:45 AM
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55. Looks like Obiepup is onedeadpup.... |
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Didn't last long, poor puppy....only 57 posts before getting the granite tribute!
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Wed Oct-05-05 02:50 AM
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56. How does that old song go |
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They ll lock me away call me radical, liberal irresponible? It's from the sixties.
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Wed Oct-05-05 02:52 AM
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57. Cool like Gandalf were officially labeled disturbers of the peace. |
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But seriously if right wing radio upsets you dont listen to it. I dont . Its not worth it. Just relax and drink more beer.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:24 AM
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60. I'm gonna have this cup of tea and then become outraged. n/t |
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