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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:30 AM
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How many Repubs will vote against Harriet Miers ?
There's a good chance that several will vote against her, simply because the conservative base is not happy with her. If ten or so Repubs voted against her, then she could be defeated if the Democrats wanted to send her back to the White House, if they wanted to stand together. However, we have had a few, like Harry Reid, that seem to have already committed to supporting her. Is this good? Should Democrats take the division of the Republicans on this nominee and hand Bush a defeat, and wait for the next more "conservative" nominee, or go ahead and vote this lady onto the Court. Because with the division of the Repubs, this nominee could be defeated, in my opinion.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:31 AM
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1. Do you honestly think 10 Repubs would vote against her?
All of the conservative senators are in lockstep with Bush. No matter what their base says, they'll still vote for her. It's the people like McCain that could go against Bush, but he's probably satisfied with her anyway.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:34 AM
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3. It's possible
A bit of political ju-jitsu. If the conservatives were convinced that the nomination was sewed up, they might vote against her on a protest vote to Punish Bush for not nominating a "real conservative."

Those poeple would never work with Democrats to stop a bad nominee. but if they mistakenly believe the vote to be a blow out- well that is possible. But not very likely I admit.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:40 AM
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11. If this woman
........is confirmed than our country is in big trouble ..forget the term "DEMOCRACY" Its as was posted earlier a "Republican Republic"
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:46 AM
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12. Well two points
Our country is in big trouble either way.

And I don't think she's the straw that breaks the camels back. She'll be bad, but possibly less bad than other potential Bush Nominees. I'm not defending her - just stating the obvious fact that with a Republican President and Republican Congress we aren't giong to get a candidate we like.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:36 AM
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5. If the vote were today....
She would not get unanimous support, I don't think. A few weeks from now, they may all vote for her. I think there is a chance she may lose some Republican votes. How many?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:31 AM
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2. They will all vote for her Bush sent them the code

words in his P Conference today.


"Pro Life"

" She shares my views"

In other words, she is greedy and evil as hell and that is what they are looking for ----
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:56 AM
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21. don't forget "strength of character"
This has been planned - I do not think choosing Miers was a last minute deal - there's much more to it than that. They may feign a bit of disapproval, but in the end, all repugs will vote for her.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:35 AM
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4. Zero.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:37 AM
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6. None, of course! (NT)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:38 AM
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7. I suspect GOP votes against will max out at 2 or 3.
She will be in without a filibuster - and I doubt that we have 40 to uphold the filibuster.

She is anti-gay, anti-abortion, any environment, pro-corporation, throw out old laws on privacy as per Scalia's "going back to the founders original intent". Seems good is not done by the State or protected by the State - just by kindly rich lawyers doing pro-bono work.

But she has 2 good points on her side - she is not Brown or Owen!

:-(
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:38 AM
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8. I could see a few
Bill Frist needs more separation from Bush, and he's been trying to win back the uber-religionists since he bit them in the ass by turning on them on stem cell research. That could cause him to outflank Bush on the right.

Maybe Chuck Hagel, Tom Coburn, Trent Lott?

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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:39 AM
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9. The woman is clearly a partisan GOP er and bushbot.
Sandra Day O'Connor should be embarrassed to have this woman replace her. I don't see how anyone could vote her onto the Supreme Court. But I'm usually in the reality based world. :eyes:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:40 AM
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10. There's the problem. Who is fooling whom?
If the right wing really hates her and votes against her, will Bush then nominate a Bork-clone and Frist push the nuclear button? Miers may be the best that we can hope for with this bozo in office. Or are the right wingers pulling a fast one by protesting too much? The last thing that this reeling, punch-drunk moron of a president needs is an ugly senate fight that he and his cronies can only assume the public will blame on him. I tend to think that Bush is trying to make it easy for the Dems to go along with him on this nominee and that the RW is actually really pissed-off about it. Sticking to his base has not been a very successful approach since the election, and he may just want a nice smooth win (and, of course, having another crony on the SC in the next few years might be a lifesaver for Herr Bush - literally). So, I tend to think that the Dems should vote for Miers and push for her - and drive a bigger wedge between Bush and his base. But I will admit that it could be an elaborate Rovean con-game...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:51 AM
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13. Zero
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:51 AM
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14. ZERO, ZERO, ZERO!!!
What are you people THINKING? Miers is a total Kool-Aid drinker and the fascists and fundies should be overjoyed with everything except for the fact that she isn't 20 years younger.

I'm really disappointed that no Democratic Senators stood up and said the truth: that this is the worst crony appointment yet. Worst resume of any SCOTUS appointment EVER!!!

It's just another Bush loyalist getting her due. That theme could have resonance with Americans without regard to ideology.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:58 AM
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15. Hear, hear.
I can't, for the life of me, see what the repukes are complaining about, and I'm further amazed by the "we could do worse" attitude that we're seeing on DU. Through my research I have become fully convinced that we can not do worse. Why are we so afraid to resist?

My thoughts, in greater detail, here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2130848&mesg_id=2130848

-Laelth
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:04 AM
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16. "what the repukes are complaining about"
she supposedly contributed to the Al Gore campaign so they're afraid she might be some secret liberal. I have no doubt this woman is a right wing Bush GOP type who will do whatever Bush wants.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:18 AM
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19. As you know ...
that means nothing. She, as a member of a prestigious Dallas law firm, contributed to Democrats when they were the only game in town in Texas. This was standard procedure for anyone who did business in the state. I wouldn't make too much of that. Once the Repukes came to power, she (and her law firm) put their money where there hearts were (in the hands of big business).

If that's all the repukes are objecting to, we are in bad shape, indeed.

-Laelth
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:52 AM
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20. We are not just in bad shape; we are basically sunk
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:10 AM
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17. As many as are out of step in this picture...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:11 AM
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18. Don't buy it kentuck
I know I don't. They ran this up the flagpole on Roberts...it made some headlines and they all voted for him anyway.

So she gave some money to Gore 17 years ago. Big deal. Hell knowing them and how they do things they probably told her to do that as part of the set up to get her on the court (lots of examples of them taking people along with them-Rice, Gonzo, Thomas-for preordained positions).

They aren't going to vote against her.
She isn't going to vote Roe out because they will never get her approved in time for the two cases coming up in November.
The pro-life heads will fuss and complain and then go back to raising money and paying themselves with that money and stirring up those who have no other reason to support or vote for Republicans.
The issue stays alive as a wedge and everyone still makes money off of it.



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