I think the Dr. Phil lawsuit is a way to get to Amway

[AlCzervik]

Amway was in partnership with Dr. Phil on his diet products so Dr. Phil is most likely an Amway republican. I would love to see Amway in court and see them lose.

[spinbaby]

1. Eh?

Want to explain what it is you're talking about?

[Dora]

2. Dr. Pill is being sued over his diet claims. n/t

[AlCzervik]

3. sorry, he's being sued over his diet products and the lawyer is trying

to make it a class action suit. Amway was his partner and distributed the products.

[Lex]

4. Your post made complete sense to me and I too hope

that this suit will shine some light on the Amway-repuke-bots.

They give me the creeps.

[AlCzervik]

5. i really hope so, i hadn't thought about until i heard that Amway

was in partnership with him and then the lawyer wanting to make it a class action suit--it all starting making perfect sense.

[EC]

10. Me too,

Amway needs to be stopped, besides being a pyramid scheme, I don't like the way the users act...like they are hypnotized...

[rooboy]

6. Amway's actually got some big legal problems of its own...

there have been some rather unseemly practices at the top of the Quixtar (formerly Amway) corporation, where they have been (more or less) confiscating the distributorships of people who cause trouble for them. The mechanism used for this was a phoney arbitration system called JAMS, whose judgements always favored Quixtar.

In the last few weeks some former big distributors (namely Brig Hart and Ken Stewart) won a legal action to have the JAMS process ruled invalid, which paves the way for a flood of former distributors to sue Quixtar (and most of its biggest leaders) for hundreds of millions of dollars. More importantly though, it will bring into the public domain a huge amount of information about seedy practices going on at the top levels of the corporation.

Quixtar is already struggling under the weight of bad publicity - this new action may spell the end.

[movie_girl99]

7. I haven't heard of this

do you have a link so i can read up on it. I hate that SOB and would love to see his a** dragged in to court for many things...giving shitty advice is one of them.

[AlCzervik]

8. here

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/04/dr.phil/

[movie_girl99]

13. thanks! n/t

[displacedtexan]

9. I always knew there was something "not right" about that guy.

It was just a feeling that his sincerity was forced.

The Amway scammers are bigtime Repukes.

I hope "Dr." Phil goes the way of the Dodo.

[noonwitch]

11. If you buy a diet plan produced by an overweight guy....

You get what you pay for.

I would love to see Amway/Alticor/whatever they are calling themselves get in trouble, however. The DeVos and VanAndel families have been making money off the backs of the poor, vulnerable and stupid for too long, by the way they sold Amway distributorships.

"God wants you to be rich" was the basic philosophy expressed in one video I saw of one of their recruitment pitches. I've read the New Testament several times, and have yet to see a passage in which Jesus says the God wants his followers to be rich. There's the camel through the eye of the needle thing.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

12. I am very overweight

and from the beginning I smelled a Dr. Phil rat. Sure, he makes sense but I'm sure he loves to make money, too, and there's nothing like diet products.

His whole attitude was "I have all the answers" and we fat folks want so much to believe.

I don't like him because of that.

And Amway? Talk about group think. Creepy folks. I tried it in the late 70's and went to one or two meetings. The theme was that International Amway could stop the cold war because you'd never raise a rifle against "your Direct."

ooooh. creeeeepy

[Batgirl]

14. so so Dr. Phil had business dealings w/Amway

I didn't know that but it all fits with my visceral recoiling from him. His popularity always mystified me (same with Chimpy) because I've always had a bad reaction to perceived hucksters.

Got some family I avoid contact with because of their cultish Amway behavior. They're so brainwashed they can't hold a conversation that's not a sales pitch. But there's not much demand for the products they're selling, so they end up losing their own money, while enriching the people at the top of the pyramid because of their mandatory purchase of "training" materials and paid attendance at cult rallies. However, they remain convinced of their soon-to-be-millionaire status.

There's a lot of overlap between the mass of folks at the bottom of the multi-level pyramids, and the working class Bush voters. Both are courted and placated until they have no blood left to squeeze.

Amway rallies and the like, are where these gullible folks are bombarded with all of the Rightwing "truisms" that have infected our society like a virus: If you're not a millionaire you're just not trying hard enough; God wants you to be rich; poor people simply lack the will to be rich, etc.

Anyone who's morbidly fascinated by this, here's a free downloadable book written by a former Amway member. Lots of political parallels.
http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/