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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:37 PM
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O’Reilly Tonight: How Blogs Are Destroying America
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 05:51 PM by Seansky
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/04/oreilly-blogs/

On Edit: Maybe he heard * admin that the US deficit and Iraq war's consequences and Katherina's mess were all created by bloggers... Hmmm, you know which blogger is responsible for the healthcare nightmare? I want to give him/her a piece of my mind....
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:38 PM
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1. Hey, O'Liely - suck my _____
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 05:38 PM by Mr_Spock
I wonder if O'Liely is capable of telling a truth?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:39 PM
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5. He works for Faux, so the answer is obvious. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:38 PM
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2. Without readying his swill
he has a point, they are destroying his version of what a servile America should be
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:38 PM
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3. What's the matter, fuckface?
Getting nervous about the power of the common man when he has access to his own press?

Fuck you, Bill. Fuck you.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:39 PM
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4. I love the exchange between Goldberg and O'Reilly.
AUTHOR BERNARD GOLDBERG: There are some conservatives on the list <”100 People Who Are Screwing Up America”>, but there are mostly liberals. And when they could write unanimously on the Web, you know, a review or post.

O’REILLY: Blogs. I don’t even read them. I mean, it’s so outrageous.

GOLDBERG: It’s beyond — it’s beyond vile.

O’REILLY: Let’s go to the — look, that’s just a waste of time. You shouldn’t even read it. It’s garbage. Nobody cares about it. Everybody knows the simpletons who are doing it are cowards and they don’t have any influence. <7/18/05>

:rofl:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:59 PM
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31. Good advertizing....
make people curious to go look up some of those 'blogs' by those cowards
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:01 PM
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32. you know, I forgot about the bad publicity is good publicity although I'm
glad it isn't working for the * admin
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:40 PM
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6. Of course...
Blogs would be the greatest thing to happen to America in the 21st century if they were dominated by conservatives.

But such isn't so, is it Bill?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:40 PM
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7. Must be *billsfalafelblog.com* he's talking about. n/t
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:41 PM
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8. Blogs cut into the audience / money for hatemongers like O' Dumbass
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:42 PM
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9. Just when I think he will never manage to
outdo his idiocy he opens his mouth again! He at least gives me a chuckle.


Ignorance is bliss ...
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:43 PM
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10. New definition for america...
Revenues from O'reilly Factor Slacks.

translation:

"How Blogs are Destroying My Revenues from sales of O'Reilly Factor Slacks"


:rofl:
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:43 PM
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11. On Blogs Tonight: How O'Reilly Is Destroying America n/t
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:45 PM
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14. GREAT ONE!!!!!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:51 PM
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19. Keith Olbermann and Jon Stewart would agree !!!
O'Lielly's show is sham, they are pre-taped and edited heavily to make him look like King of the World and his guests look like "morans", I think with the exception of the recent Donahue and Clark interviews, but maybe he needs to "level" from time to time?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:44 PM
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12. Pathetic
Sorry Billy... your show is hurting America you ignorant tool.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:45 PM
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13. Blogs don't have influence? Whatever helps you make it through the day
O'Lielly. What are you so scared of Billy?
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:46 PM
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15. Thanks to blogs, networks and newspapers are really sweeting. Just
see in Alexa how in just few weeks sites like the Huffington Post went for hardly visited to one of the top 10 most visited related sites.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:47 PM
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16. i thought Rap music was destroying America? What will be destroying
America next week and we he tell "the folks"?
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:47 PM
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17. when this sort of stuff spews out...
we know we have let the genie out of the bottle...and he ain't going back in either...blog on people.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:54 PM
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24. Genie or the elephant in the room...either way it is only going to
continue. I heard an 78 year old lady asking one of my friend what is blogging (she has a computer and she uses ebay to buy her "junk" as she puts it)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:47 PM
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18. The Truth Hurts! nt
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:52 PM
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20. What????
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:53 PM
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21. Why Bloggers...Why Now? ...(from Feb 05)
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-21-05 11:57 PM
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Why Bloggers...Why Now?

Hey Media....

You have fallen down on the job. You know it, and now you know that WE know you know it .

You flew too close to the sun, the wax melted, and ....there appears to be a parachute "malfunction"..Happy Landings, Icarus

........

For decades media had Carte Blanche to report on whatever they chose, and for the most part did it fairly well. I'm sure that when FDR was putting together the New Deal, there was a lot of media attention to the pros and cons of the programs he planned. I know that during the Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon/Ford/Carter/Reagan/Bush1/Clinton years, there was no shortage of critical press. They understood that it was their JOB to report on important legislation.

Presidents are not supposed to "like" the coverage they get. It is what it is. Administrations have always tried to divert attention from their failings and trumpet their successes, but it's the DUTY of the press to call equal attention to both.

The stakes are very high, and the public is starting to realize that this might be our "last stand" against a government run amok. Instead of having the press standing by as "the fly on the wall" recording what is happening, they have become little more than megaphones for the politik-speak coming from the White House.

The real irony here is that as things have gotten ever more serious, the press has turned tail and run the other direction. They insist on force feeding us celebrity drivel, as China "eats our lunch". We just have to study, in depth, the make up of the Jackson jury while jobs are leaking from our country like water through a sieve. Brad & Jen's break-up is "top of the hour news...every hour" while we rarely hear an up to date accounting of our war dead. Our lopsided practically militant legislature is dismantling our long held safety nets but we see smiling anchors bemused by the antics of water skiing squirrels, and skydiving Grandpas.

Instead of deliberate reporting and follow-up on important issues of our day, we are "treated" to pseudo-journo-spokes-folks who delight in telling us about THEIR lives and the books THEY have written. Whole "networks" are devoted to "news", and yet they seem to interview each other as often as they report the news.

That brings up a whole other point. Experts? Experts used to be just that. They did not serve up a political agenda with their science. The so-called experts who are foisted in our faces day in and out are little more than Think Tank Hacks who have sold out to the right wing machine. They are as believable as the tobacco executives who repeated one after another "I do not believe that nicotine is addictive". For a price, these experts will say whatever they are paid to say. We know it, and we are tired of the lack of diversity of thought.

Bloggers are just ordinary people who are tired of being lied to, and who are ashamed and embarrassed for our "media folks". For the most part, the on-air "talent" are people who had the advantage of a good education, are well paid, and should know better. It's like seeing the guy from school who got a PHD working at Walmart.

We also "get it". We recognize the "code words" used in reporting the few news stories that get reported. We are ashamed of you because you are letting us down daily, hourly. You are our last hope for spreading truth and unvarnished facts, and yet you are usually first in line with lies, half truths and White House fax transcriptions.

Before you accuse the LEFT of being poor sports, I might remind you that "the left" controls NOTHING, and hasn't for a long time, so the "liberal bias" crap just does not pass the "smells like shit" test. Truth HAS no bias.

Our so-called media jumped on the war wagon with breathtaking gusto, never questioning the obviously bogus information, and yet had the guts to "be offended" when ordinary people started to take you all to task. You are our "last man".. We count on YOU to tell us what's going on. Sure, you all looked "cute" in your "war outfits", and it probably was great fun to race through the desert on tanks. You grabbed every lifeline the government tossed you as the reasons for war proved as solid as blobs of mercury. WE knew from Day One, minus 5 that the whole war was phony, and we are holding you responsible for a great part of the resulting carnage.

There was a window of opportunity when real reporting could have prevented the whole thing, and exposed the mess. We saw how you all enjoyed watching Colin Powell doing linguistic gymnastics at the UN, while the whole world laughed at us. Our media stuck their fingers in their ears and chanted la-la-la-la. You could not be bothered with mere facts.. The swooshy graphics were all ready.. the logos designed, and the measurements for your "war costumes" were already at the tailors.

and now we have arrived somehow, at Gannon/Guckert/Jeff/James/Cannon/Bulldog/BoyWonder.. whatever-the-hell he calls himself today. Get a grip people.. It's NOT about the sex (although he flaunted it).. It;s about the LYING... (Now where have we heard that canard?) and it's about the LACK OF SECURITY at the White House, and the EASY ACCESS that a male prostitute could get, and yet legitimate news people have difficulty getting.

We are spending billions of dollars on Homeland Security, and yet our own White House seems relatively INSECURE.

The Blogosphere is being covered now, out of obvious desperation on your part, but you are covering it in your usual dimwitted way. Turn the microscope around. You should be focused on:

Why can ordinary citizens with a computer be able to dig up facts that are unknown to people with degrees in journalism?

Why is the general public MORE aware of the undercurrents of stories than the mainstream press?

Why are bloggers meticulously careful in the sourcing of their material, providing voluminous links, while "real journalists" are the ones "just making stuff up" and claiming "confidentiality" when they get caught?

What's it TO you if real people have opinions too? Are OUR opinions less valid because we are the consumers of news, instead of the ones asking the "non-questions".?

Why are the relatively FEW opportunities afforded journalists WASTED with inane "questions"? I don't care what he eats, how fast he bikes, how many armadillos he fed Barney, or any of the other crap you guys ask him.

In case you have not noticed, we have some serious issues , and they deserve your full attention. If you cannot do it, please find someone else to do your job.

We have "moved on"..


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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:56 PM
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27. If you cannot do it, WE'll do it for the good of the country...
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:04 PM
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33. I should have said the Blogger truth hurts! nt
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:22 PM
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39. here's an image to go along with that great article --------- ---- > IMAGE
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:36 PM
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40. I hope that you and Plaid Adder don't mind
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 02:46 PM by rocknation
but I think her take on bloggers vs. the MSM (also written in February '05) also deserves another look.

Ethos vs. Blogos (the Jeff Gannon story)
Plaid Adder

...(The) NYT and the rest of the MSM are failing to grasp an important point, which is that the blogosphere is filling the void they have left open by refusing to investigate and follow up on the many, many crimes and scandals produced by this administration.

...For those of you whose memories of rhetoric and comp are mercifully dim...(there are)...three basic modes of rhetorical appeal...Pathos is the appeal to emotion, logos is the appeal to reason, and ethos is the appeal based on trust...MSM outlets are used to skating by on ethos and pathos, (but) are really falling down on the job when it comes to logos...Bloggers HAVE to use evidence if they want to be credible...And that's why the blogosphere is taking over...

More

:headbang:
rocknation

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:54 PM
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22. How Blogs Are Destroying Bill O'Reilly's Ratings
I'm just sayin'.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:54 PM
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23. Oh yeah...with all the problems we have today, Free Speech is what's
destroying America.

O'Reilly? Eat my shorts!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:55 PM
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25. Blogs: "O'Reilly Who?"
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:55 PM
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26. Next on the Factor, Matt Drudge and Andrew Sullivan
O'Liely you useless featherhead.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:56 PM
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28. If the national media did their jobs properly
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 06:03 PM by rocknation
there would be no NEED for blogs. And I presume he's talking only of the "extreme left" blogs. The only things they're destroying, Shrill, are people like you!

P.S. Can't wait to hear his review of the new George Clooney movie!

:boring:
rocknation
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:58 PM
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29. wait a min. Are you saying you agree that the left ones are
destroying America? Just kidding.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:59 PM
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30. WTF?
They're goin after our free speech now!!! That would just about do us in period.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:09 PM
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34. I've been asked in two different polls this week if I use the internet
... for one of my main news sources. My guess is that the MSM is feeling the pressure from years of poor coverage.

The only reason blogs have taken off is because the media in this country has failed to produce accurate balanced coverage and sold out to their corporate masters.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:18 PM
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37. it is. CBS and several newspapers announced in early August that
they will invest in enhancing their on-line platform. Those included very large newspapers...
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:14 PM
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35. We're coming to GET YOOOOOOOOOU, Bill!
Watch out, Splotchy!
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:16 PM
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36. Keep in mind what O'Reilly "thinks" America is
The "america" that O'Reilly beleives in is one that loves corporate ownership of politicians, friendly facism and blind Bush worship. If blogs can do that - Amen.

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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:19 PM
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38. true,,,Bloggers are killing large corporate MSM and some of their
advertisers
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