CSPAN Caller: Islam is not a religion, it's a fundamentalism.

[Skidmore]

Went on to say we need Mier and people like her to make sure that liberals don't rewrite the constitution and that our nation is based on God.

Sheesh, it's too early in the morning for a headache.

[XanaDUer]

1. FL or TX?

Which state are they from?

PS-joke, but these two states do seem to generate the mostest-fun C-SPAN calls...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

2. I heard that... LOL

It's Autumn and the nuts are falling.

[Hello_Kitty]

3. Constitushun sez One Nayshun under God

Jus' like Karen Hughes said!! :eyes:

[sandnsea]

4. Pepto or Tylenol

That used to be my little joke, which am I going to need first every day after listening to these jokers. Now I just see them all as a joke.

[H2O Man]

5. Odd

to think that this person's vote counts just as much as a rational person's.

[Gman]

7. The GOP and certain religions prey on these poor white ignorant and

stupid people.

[H2O Man]

9. I'd agree

that politics and religion have often preyed on ignorance, and feasted upon stupidity. I'm not sure that it has any correlation to skin color: actually, quite the opposite.

[Tyler Durden]

12. Problem is, I don't see poor BLACK ignorant people....

...going enmass for Bush and his Talibornagain like poor WHITE ignorant people do.

[Gman]

29. It's not like the poor Blacks think Bush walks on water

His base is predominantly white and incredibly undereducated and just plain stupid.

[tsuki]

19. No they don't. The GOP and Fundamentalist Group legitimize

their racism and for that they give their devotions to the GOP and their money to the fundies.

I see it every day down here.

[Gman]

30. Probably for the same religious reasons that slavery was ok

Such good "christians".

[Skidmore]

6. "Christianity doesn't prevent others from worshipping in their religion"

but it's okay for it to be part of the law of the land. That was the last caller. It is amazing to me that these people actually see themselves and their beliefs to be the background by which all other activity on the planet is projected.

[CottonBear]

8. It makes one's head spin. These people have such a limited world view.

They are probably poor or lower middle class. They are mostly white, blue collar types. They have, for the most part, never traveled outside the US much less much outside of their region. They are Protestant. They have little education and little or no knowledge of world religions and politics. They do see their religion and their little part of the US as the center of the world and their world view. I'm not so sure if they will ever change.

"Aetheism is a religion." ???????????

[Bridget Burke]

22. There are plenty of upper-class fools.

They are educated & travel the world. But they vote for Republicans because they like corporate welfare & tax cuts. Conservative social laws have never been a problem for them. Their daughters could always get discreet D&C's if they had a little problem. If they're gay, good attorneys & financial counselors can ensure the "rights" of couplehood.

Calling in to a TV show is much too "common" for them. But they do more damage with fewer excuses.

[QC]

24. Good post!

It's disheartening to see so much blithe, free 'n easy, unconscious class bigotry on an allegedly progressive board.

[CottonBear]

26. True. The upper class people you describe are simply greedy

or, in the case of my gay male friend who voted for *, scared of "terra." I had a conversation with him about why he was voting for *. He was concerned about security more than the economy or gay rights. He is middle to upper middle-class and a college-educated professional.

[ET Awful]

11. Christianit doesn't prevent others form worshipping their religion, but

there ought to be a law against them damn muslims . . . . .

Or so their thought process goes.

[indigo32]

23. Very nicely put

they do act like the World revolves around them don't they?

[ET Awful]

10. Uhhh, how can you have a "fundamentalism" without a "religion"?

It seems to be that to be a fundamentalist, you must be adhering to the foundations of a certain belief system no?

Ah well, what do I know, I'm only a godless heathen.

:evilgrin:

[Az]

13. Was the caller Karen Hughes?

Just asking.

[McKenzie]

14. anyone who literally believes

that a set of disparate texts, written over about 1,500 years by dozens of different authors, selectively put together by a bunch of patriarchs with their own mysogynistic agenda, translated from the incredibly dense Ancient Greek (not the stuff we get taught at school) into Latin and then into the common tongue constitutes revealed truth needs to be kept away from sharp objects.

I find it utterly unbelievable (OK crap pun) that a country that is the most technologically advanced nation on the planet can allow this utter tripe to dominate in the way it has done. It's a form of mental illness and is indicative of either mental instability or the cynical use of religion to do what religion has always done...control people's thoughts.

Then these same deluded Rapturista, who believe in the Great Cosmic Hoovering Up, have the utter cheek to diss Islam. Ms Miers needs to consult the English Dictionary...the word she wants to look up is "hippocracy".

[Cassandra]

17. What you said.

I heard that guy this morning, too. Some of the others were equally delusional.

[BlueEyedSon]

15. So is xtianity, it should be outlawed

what a moran

[rasputin1952]

16. I am always astounded at the profound ignorance of some of the

callers. The one who said that the Constitution stated that, "we are endowed by our Creator inalienable rights...", excuse me, but that is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. Can't these people get ir right on occasion?

Many of them also fail to realize that tolerance is one of the tenets of Christianity; but the absolute main tenet is avoiding hypocrisy, as it is mentioned more often than any other 'fault' of humanity. I suppose that is just lost in the shuffle between paranoia and xenophobia within the fundy movement...:shrug:

For all of those out there with 'absolute' views, as an individual that tries to actually live within the bounds of what Jesus taught, I figure that tolerance, compassion, forgiveness, peace, love and understanding are severly underrated in the fundamentalist view. They spend far too much time reliving the OT, than trying to live a life that is based on what most consider some pretty good virtues. Just like the guy who brought up the verse from Isaiah, it was directed to the Hebrews at the time, not the 21st century Americans. If this individual was a literalist, God forbid, he'd be in the backyard stoning his children because of some absurd slight that might have happened in his home. Judgment and retribution are NOT part of Christianity, Justice is.

In any case, thankfully, these people are truly a minority in this nation, they are simply more vociferous than those of us with some reasoning capabilities.

[Kber]

20. Inalenable rights isn't in the constitution?

Next you'll be telling me that we don't get French benefits.

;)

[insane_cratic_gal]

18. Common Freeper

talk or right wing extremist. You often hear this out of the mouths of O'Rielly.. Limbaugh, and mostly Coulter slams the Islam religion over and over again.

Here is one of her famous lines "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

[ck4829]

21. Liberal Muslim here.

I don't believe in Fundamentalism.

I support Secularism, Feminism, the GLBT Equal Rights Movement, and more things that will bring about a little progress.

I go as far as to question the sacredness of the Hadiths.

I wish these people would actually sit down and talk to a Muslim. Don't worry, we won't bite.

[BiggJawn]

25. And their point WAS?

Gee, I thought there are fundamental sects of a religion, like good ol' Murkan rattle-snake handlin' school board-invadin' fundamental protestantism....Or Dominionism...

:shrug:

[laruemtt]

27. owey, my brain hurts..... n/t

[DemGirl7]

28. These retards, like that person, call up every day

It's the same day after day, I turn in so I can laugh my ass off at their ignorance. By the way did you hear the caller right after that asshole. They said if they wanted to see fundamentalism, they so go to Virginia Beach...And we all know what is located there....Robertson's "700 Club".