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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:03 AM
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I think Reid suckered Bush into making a fool of himself.
This Meirs nomination is turning into an embarrassment for Bush. George Will's column is decimating. Forget the "oh horrors, she's a southern baptist" silliness going around DU, there are turning out to be serious political issues with her, her law firm's history of fraud, her personal involvement in the august 9, 2001 memo, the greatest example of poor judgment and incompetence in american history, and her embarrassing lack of qualifications. I don't see her making it, this one just may be withdrawn.

Yet Harry Reid apparently "suggested" her name to Bush, which has caused some puzzlement. Why would he do such a thing?

Well, they say that when your opponent is fucking up, the best thing to do is get out of his way and let him self-destruct.

I am starting to wonder if Reid is smarter by half than I thought, that he actually egged Bush on to do this because he knoew it would be embarrassing and make Bush look typically Bushian - incompetent, cronyistic, all in all a lightweight; because in the end thats what this appointment is, lightweight, incompetent, just plain stupid.
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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:09 AM
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1. Sometimes a banana is just a banana
n/t
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:20 AM
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7. And sometimes at the withered, tail-end of a desperate
coke-jag, an idiot-son with oedipal quirks can be talked into putting his finger into the cigar trimmer...
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:06 PM
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22. LOL! Nicely done, sir.
:toast:
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:09 AM
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2. That's what I've been saying all along -- plus he did not promise
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 10:11 AM by Bumblebee
to vote for her either. There will be enough stuff coming up for him to say that he's changed his mind with all this new info. A brilliant move. She is a born-again and very much "pro-life" -- and there is nothing better than objections to her on both sides because of uncertainty and her low stature. In the meantime, the GOP will be eating their own and the confirmation process will be quite embarrassing to B. Someone said the same on NPR this morning -- a political science expert. He is pretty convinced Reid did it to provoke rift in GOP.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:39 AM
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15. When did she become a "borg-again"?
Someone noted that her physical appearance has deteriorated a lot in the past few years. I usually don't care what people look like, but sometimes a deterioration like this can be a result of internal conflict, drug abuse, etc. I'm wondering if her being "born again" coincided with her getting in bed with the weed, and if so, what does it mean?
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:31 PM
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26. I'm just wondering when she decided to cut off the Texas big hair.
Photos from 1997 show her looking pretty rough. Maybe she just didn't age well. Too much sunshine and no sunscreen can just ruin one's skin. But the hair thing, just how recent is that? It might give us a clue as to when George decided to nominate her.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:10 AM
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3. you would think that Bush would steer clear of the Guard duty thing
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:53 PM
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19. He doesn't have to worry about it
the Guard info is priveleged info.
It can't be asked about.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:43 PM
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28. should be changed
the public have the right to know
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:10 AM
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4. You might be right
Certainly Meirs is upsetting his base; if this corruption stuff comes out more prominately, it could stymie her nomination.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:12 AM
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5. exactly
jeeez --does no one else get this? Reid's good word about Meirs?

She returns phone calls promptly.

I thought I was the only one that found this to be genius-- he's commenting on her last job being a secretarial position.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:38 AM
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14. Remember that Reid bested the Mob in Vegas
not a small achievement. And the Mob is much better organized that *'s third rate crime syndicate.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:42 AM
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16. Exactly, I read his initial statement as subtle sarcasm
which, on this board, we are all experienced in dang it.

Swish, over many heads, especially conservatives.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:17 AM
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6. Reid's approach does have advantages
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 10:17 AM by Vinnie From Indy
It could be a bit of brilliant counter psyops in the sense that this nomination puts the sleaze and slime of Texas politics back up for discussion. Dem's can now begin asking new questions about Smirky's Big Adventure in Uniform and the TX lottery. I hope that Reid is correct and that his glowing words for Miers are akin to throwing the drowning Smirkenfuhrer Admin. a stone life preserver.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:22 AM
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8. Looks like IdiotSon swallowed the bait this time.
Now he's getting hammered by his "core constituents"

I love it when Repukes eat their young..................
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:29 AM
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10. Yea, I love it too. AHA! does this make us cannibals
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:25 AM
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9. Miers = Trojan Horse
Reid has opened the gates and put out the welcome mat.

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:35 AM
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11. Trojan Whore n/t
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TOOLZ Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:38 AM
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13. Seriously, why the optimism?
Why is everyone so happy over another unqualified Bush crony who's certain to vote pro-life given the chance? Who would throw him or his kin another election if she could? Who will go before a goose-stepping rethug controlled congress? And who cares what Harry Reid says or does, I don't even know if the media know who he is.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:49 AM
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17. I will be VERY surprised if at the end of the day she is actually
confirmed. I suspect there will be a strong -- bipartisan :) -- opposition to her at the end of the hearings. In the meantime, it chews up time, B. is utterly humiliated by all the bad press and pronouncements of his fellow conservatives, O'Connor is persuaded to stay on the job longer, and he needs to come up with another candidate, and this time a true conservative to pacify his base, and the Dems filibuster that one. You can be pretty certain that all polls will be supporting the Dems and not B, and please let me know in the real world we live in now, what could have been a better outcome? B. nominating a liberal? The spectacle of people even suspecting that Reid has made an utter fool out of B is delicious in itself.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:37 PM
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27. I said that to my daughter last night. Harriet got out of a limo....
And she looked like hell. She doesn't know how to blow dry her new hair cut, and that suit... right out of the 80's, big shoulders and that hideous Barbara Bush blue.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:35 AM
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12. Bush make a fool of himself? Too late.
His genes and Barbara already did the job.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:50 PM
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18. Give em hell Harry
www.giveemhellharry.com

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Leftist_Warrior Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:54 PM
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20. Bush makes a fool of himself...
no matter what. :) Just put the chimp on the air and watch the masses laugh from sea to shinning sea. I just don't get why the media gives him a pass on his illiteracy.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:57 PM
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21. I think he did it because it gives them an opportunity
to dredge up all the dirt on her involvement with all the Bush scandals over the years and bring to light to the average American the types of things that have gone on behind the scenes.
http://dailykos.com/story/2005/10/3/115019/566
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:18 PM
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23. This time the Dems should be 100% united in...
insisting that relevant memos be provided or they will not participate in the Hearings on her confirmation. They should drag it out as long as possible. Another crap shoot nominee should not be tolerated.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:23 PM
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24. People must remember the story of B'rer Rabbit and the Tar Baby...
"Please don't throw me in da Briar Patch!"

atta boy Harry...
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:28 PM
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25. She's have to eat a lot of ego to agree to withdrawal of her nomination
Now that her name is "OUT THERE", all bets are off if the WH expected her to withdraw in shame as an incompetent, in favor of a Janice Rogers Brown or worse. This is Harriet Miers's MOMENT in the spotlight. And anybody who tries to grab her chance to slink onto indelible pages of history at the USSC had better think about all the dirt she has on Dubya.

She evidently was a DLC Democrat just 17 years ago, when she contributed to Al Gore's 1988 campaign. Her attachment to the Rethugs is just a dalliance considering that evdently she was a Domocrat more than twice that long.

She could threaten Dubya with exposure of first-hand accounts his inaction on the Osama PDB, her $19,000 deep-sixing of records of his AWOL and DUI, etc.
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