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Wed Oct-05-05 11:41 AM
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Democrats need to take time and listen to Miers answers... |
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Before coming to any conclusions one way or the other. After all, if she is filibustered or defeated, we will get another right-winger, perhaps worse than Miers. But, from her responses and from further research, we may find out how right-wing she really is and whether she will be a tool of the White House and Republican Party without one shred of independence? If she indicates she has no independence of thought, she should be defeated and we could take our chances with another nominee. We do not need a nominee beholden to the Republican Party and especially not beholden to the corporate interests of Junior Bush. But, for the time being, we should keep our powder dry and wait and see what develops. We definitely do not need further public acclamation from Democrats at this time.
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:44 AM
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1. and what makes you think she will actually ANSWER anything? |
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Roberts certainly didn't.
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bowens43
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:44 AM
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Let's hear what she has to say.
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acmavm
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:45 AM
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3. Oh, I'm sure that just like the rest of the bush**bots she'll be honest |
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and forthright in her answers. She's been such a paragon of virtue thus far in her career.
Of course they'll throw another freak show at us. What else would they do? This is the time to stand up to them and their conniving dishonest scheming crap.
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:47 AM
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4. hey, the WH already said that she helped prep Roberts for his ?????s |
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of course there will be no substance to the answers.
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:48 AM
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5. You have a better idea? |
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Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 11:48 AM by bowens43
Or is it just try to filibuster anyone and everyone bush nominates? That's not gong to work. It's her or someone who is possibly worse.
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:57 AM
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6. I think the entire Miers process needs to be stalled until |
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we know that Fitzgerald has something-- we cant afford to have a stacked court that can kill a Cheney indictment or prosecution.
Additionally we cant have a stacked court if Bush tries to declare Martial law for some reason. Dont get hung up on the nomination process-- the goal here is to drive out the BUSH crime family.
That means not letting the BUSH crime family manuever things into position as they wish.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:30 PM
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13. Sorry , but the court nomination is far more important |
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then driving out bush. We are talking about decades here not just a few years.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:16 PM
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9. Oh, in this whole wide 50 states there's not a better nominee? Hell yes, |
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Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 12:25 PM by acmavm
let us just sit a woman on the bench that's directly involved with bush** and his being AWOL, and the little hitch that she helped cover this all up. That's one hell of a recommendation.
Oh yeah, and the law firm she headed, beinging fined was it 22 million dollars for misleading investors? GREAT RECOMMENDATION!!!
And the fact that she's never sat on the bench before. Shit, let's give this obviously dishonest woman some on-the-job training in the highest court of this nation. That sounds smart to me. <sarcasm like you wouldn't believe>.
Let's just put her on the Supreme Court and absolutely guarantee that we will NEVER be able to get justice or fairness before the law again as long as her and Roberts shall live. Amen.
Do I have a better idea. Yeah, one of my two dogs. They're two of the dumbest animals I've ever laid eyes on. But I'd trust their judgement way before I'd ever trust this woman or anyone this asshole comes up with. And I recommend that we (the Democratic Party and the people that make it up) either find a spine now or just face the fact that we disenfranchised OURSELVES.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:27 PM
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10. And how exactly do you intend to get that 'better nominee' |
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nominated? Do you really believe that if she is filibustered the next nominee won't be far worse? Personally, I'd take Miers of Brown any day of the week. Many DUers don't seem to be able to understand that we are NOT going to get anyone acceptable to us. It's not going to happen. If she is filibustered the next nominee will be even more extreme and won't be filibustered. The republicans will not allow two supreme court nominees in a row be filibustered. If Miers goes down you can bet we'll end up with Owen or Brown. Both confirmed right wing nut jobs.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:29 PM
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12. Whatever. No wonder we're wallowing in the shithole that we are. Hell, |
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let's just roll over and play dead. It's worked so frigging well so far.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:31 PM
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14. Can't answer the question? |
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I didn't think so. People are so focused on screwing bush that they are missing the big picture. Bush is gone in three years. The Supreme court justice will here for decades. We need to try to get the least offensive justice that we can.
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Wed Oct-05-05 02:07 PM
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19. Okay, say we do it your way. So when bush** is gone we aren't still stuck |
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with his court picks? You think these clowns are gonna change stripes once junior goes back to the pig farm for good?
Try not to hurt yourself looking at the big picture here. I'll look around for a good candidate when I get off work. Until then you'll just have to hang tight and support george on this one.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:08 PM
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20. Bushs court picks will protect Bush & Cheney |
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With Indictments in hand-- the case can be made that BUSH doesnt have the consent of the governed so thusly his nomination should be made void.
Can you imagine Nixon making a nomination and trying to get said nomination thru at the height of the Watergate hearings---
yes the Court is lifetime, Dems dont have the votes to stop it---
But a national scandal would
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Wed Oct-05-05 11:59 AM
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There is NOBODY worse. She is the evil of Dick Cheney in a robe. Her loyalty is ONLY to them, not to this country. This woman sold out long ago.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:28 PM
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11. You're right, you're right, and you are so very right. |
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What the hell is wrong with some of the people here? Are the used to losing, or do they enjoy it?
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:34 PM
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15. Nothing but rhetoric. |
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Show me that she is worse then Brown or Owen. Bush is going to be gone in three years , who will she be loyal to then?
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Horse with no Name
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:50 PM
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16. You're dreaming if you think Bushco is going to be gone in 3 years |
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Unless some serious events happen in this country in the next year or so, they will be in power until this country ceases to exist. And I will tell you how she is worse than Brown or Owen. In a nutshell. With Brown and Owen, you know what you are getting. Fascism. Regardless of what you think of these women, they vote their own misguided views and you can plan for it. Miers however, is a blank check for Bushco. They know exactly what they are getting, we know nothing. There is no "track record" of what to expect...leaving any options open. Bushco doesn't start and end with Bush. She has been around the block with these folks and her history shows that when certain events have happened, she has been rewarded handsomely. This is the ultimate reward.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:01 PM
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she and the other flunkies on the court will up hold anything bush puts into law. there is no reason for her to be on the court other than to protect the ruling class against the will of the people. do you think there will be any democrat elected to the presidency with this new court?
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Wed Oct-05-05 01:03 PM
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17. strrrreeeeeeech the process out - |
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filibuster and find them ALL unacceptable - until after the 2006 elections when we take Congress back!!!!!
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Wed Oct-05-05 01:17 PM
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18. More to nomination than meets the eye |
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If she's confirmed, Bush has a lap dog crony on the bench looking out for him and all neocons. She might be moderate on some things (I don't really know), but on issues involving politics and political figures, she is clearly expected to have loyalty.
If, ON THE OTHER HAND, enough pugs and dems oppose her (likely...weak pick) then Bush can withdraw his "attempt" at nominating a woman, give conservatives a hardliner, and tell democrats that he "tried" to give them a moderate woman.
These things are known in advance. Wouldn't be surprised if this nomination was planned to fail...so that he gets points for trying and then ends up with his hardliner that he really wanted anyway.
Look for the right to help torpedo the nomination...then we'll know.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:27 PM
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21. They should ask her questions that she wants to answer |
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like Condi did with the title of the Bin Laden memo.
Ask her questions about religion and morality to expose any authoritarian beliefs she might have.
We need to stop reacting and start being proactive by thinking 5 to 10 steps ahead.
Use the confirmations to get political points....
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