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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:44 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong: But isn't "changing" a good thing?
Bush is trying to sell Miers as a person who will "never change."

Maybe I'm just out in left field, but isn't this a bad thing? Isn't the ability to grow and learn and (gasp!) change your mind one of humanity's better qualities?

I wonder if other people (on the left and right) see this the same way I do. I know this "she'll never change" thing is a reference to David Souter, but I think people will read it deeper than that.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:46 AM
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1. it is called growth and maturity
two things that Bush fails to recognize or understand.
And of course, the people he collects around him are no better,
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:46 AM
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2. it is called growth and maturity
two things that Bush fails to recognize or understand.
And of course, the people he collects around him are no better,
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:46 AM
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3. No. Stay the course.
I wonder if he even changes his underwear.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:47 AM
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4. I was 'slightly' amazed when I watched that
It's suddenly good to not grow as a person, and to be a fixed-in-your-ways-nasty-old-codger the rest of your life.

Amazing.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:55 AM
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12. Well, remember that being part of the "intellectual elite" is bad, too.
Amazing how we've let these morons take over our language.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:47 AM
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5. I don't know about anyone else but I find it to be indicative of
a damaged psyche. It speaks of an inability for personal growth. Show me a 60 year old who hasn't changed and I'll show you someone who hasn't engaged in any personal exploration, entered relationships or interacted with the world.

In other words, I'll take it as yet another Bush lie.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:48 AM
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7. Then again, she thinks Bush is the most brilliant man she's ever met.
So there's your lack of personal exploration. Apparently she hasn't met many men.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:48 AM
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6. this is code for Fundies: this is no Souter-I won't do what Daddy did
Thus the emphasis on Harriett knowing what I want from a nominee, that she knew these qualifications as she participated in the search--she knows priority #1 is to not be another Souter
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:51 AM
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8. Yes!
I'm sorry, but the nature of the world is to change. If we only had strict constructionists on the court, they'd still be ruling against equal rights, the right to vote, and many other things. Imagine what would have happened in Brown v. Board of Education if only strict constructionists had been on the court in 1954.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:51 AM
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9. That struck me too.
I thought :wtf: Why would he boast about this? Oh, right, he is incapable of growth and change.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:52 AM
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10. It was almost as if he were speaking in a secret code.
Like "wink-wink" she won't change...cuz I know her philosophies and she won't pull a Souter...wink-wink...she won't change...won't change...won't change...
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:54 AM
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11. In the debates, "Dred Scott" was code for "Roe v. Wade"
He's known for these thinly-veiled messages to his lunatic base.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:56 AM
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13. if you're wrong, then wrong is 'right' in my
view-

ALSO- as for Souter- (he's a fellow N.H.ite, one I'm not ashamed of) I believe he never 'changed' into anything beyond what one would hope or expect- He's a man who isn't afraid to 'be himself' - who isn't swayed easily by 'mob' mentality- THAT part of him was true pre-ghwbush appointment, and is STILL a part of his character.

I dare anyone to show how Souter mis-represented himself- what he didn't do was 'go along with the good-ole boys'- and even though I disagree with him on some of his rulings, I can always follow his 'logic' as to how he got to the decision he did.

He ain't a 'yessah, whateva you say sir' man-
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:57 AM
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14. Of course not - it implies evolution over time
and we all know that can't be true.:crazy:
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:06 PM
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15. I think most Rs think that change is great:
- change the history books to reflect a past that didn't really exist, and then say you want to go back to those times

- change surpluses into deficits

- change the Bill of Rights

- change the Constitution

- change the way a president gets selected (2000)

- change the law to protect corporations and hurt people

Yep, they actually LOVE change.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:13 PM
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16. Miers on the bench: hands over ears 'na na na na na I cant hear you'
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:21 PM
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17. It can be. Doesn't have to be.
Einstein changed lots of minds. Good thing.

However, he decided later he had made a mistake in an equation. He changed his mind. He was right to begin with, it seems; he changed his mind in favor of error.

Change can be good; change can be bad. It's a value judgement. If * thinks Miers is right and clear thinking on topics now, and she changes, change is bad; if you think she's wrong and muddle-minded on topics now, change might be good.

(And as for a preceding evolution comment, it's always worth pointing out that no individual can evolve, only groups can, over time, and evolution has zero to do with morality or values. Just survival and reproduction.)
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