Seen the light
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:54 PM
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What do you think of America being run by only two families? |
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Jesse Ventura brought up that great point the other day. If and when Hillary wins in 2008, that will mean that the same two families have been in power for 24 years. Is that really the way the United States is supposed to be ran?
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:56 PM
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1. Two would be better than one.... |
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especially the one we have now.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:57 PM
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Still...I've never been comfortable about it and that's one of the things holding me back from supporting a potential Hillary run.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:56 PM
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2. It does raise some interesting questions about democracy in America. |
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:56 PM
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3. No but it goes deeper than that |
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Who runs the two families? I just don't like the prospect of any more of the same. :shrug:
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:56 PM
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One more reason not to support Hillary Clinton.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:56 PM
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5. "If and when Hillary wins in 2008" |
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Is that a serious statement? :eyes:
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:57 PM
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The "when" was just a poke. ;)
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:05 PM
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17. Well you certainly are good at poking. |
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:56 PM
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6. Yeah, and if she loses, it could be to Jeb |
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:57 PM
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8. I hope that neither one runs truly I do. nt |
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:57 PM
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9. If we nominate Hillary against Jeb we deserve to lose. |
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Because obviously we stll will have not learned our lesson.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:58 PM
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11. I don't want it. Period... |
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Just talking about that the other day!
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:58 PM
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12. Dumb Point. Clintons aren't a family like the BUSH's |
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:00 PM
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13. I know the Clintons are obviously better but... |
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it's the principal of the thing, I guess. :shrug:
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:00 PM
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14. EXTREMELY.... EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY!! |
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I say NO, NO HILLARY!!
So it's Bush/Clinton... Clinton/Bush... Bush/Clinton and then do we do Jeb and Chelsea??
We need to get a LIFE!!
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:00 PM
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15. Better a Clinton than a Bush* or a Ventura |
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I had the displeasure of having Jesse muck up my state, I don't want him anywhere near my Country - I don't even like to hear his voice.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:01 PM
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This is why I'm not crazy about Hillary in '08... |
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I like Hillary and I don't think she'd do a bad job. It's been bush's and clintons. I've always been uncomfortable with that idea.
bush's and clintons running the show isn't something I like at all.
If she won and did two terms it would be bush's and clintons for 28 years. That should make anyone feel uncomfortable and it does me.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:14 PM
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22. I feel the same, especially after seeing Poppy and Big Dog together.n/t |
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:01 PM
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16. Hey, turn about is fair play |
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Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 05:01 PM by OKNancy
I wouldn't mind if Hillary was President...she would be 100x better than any Republican I can think of.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:07 PM
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18. That's exactly why I won't vote for Hillary...even if another Bush runs. |
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Let them create a monarchy. I don't have to participate.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:09 PM
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19. Jesse's confused. The 2 Famiglias are Bush & House of Saud. |
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:11 PM
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20. They had a special on the History Channel about this two nights ago... |
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It was about "secret societies" and how as long as we have presidents that belongs to the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, and such, we are voting for the NWO agenda. It was a great piece that presented the findings as fact, and up until that point, I had viewed it as conspiracy. The whole program just kept hitting on the fact that it didn't matter if the candidate was Dem or Puke, if they belonged to those groups they had the same agenda. It also talked about the danger of legacy, (families being elected over and over) in a democracy. It was one of the best programs I've ever seen on the History Channel.
BTW, the name of the program was History Decoded, Secret Societies. Just thought someone may be interested if they rerun it.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:12 PM
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21. Wow - That is a stunning observation. |
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That hit me like a brick to the head. I hadn't thought of it like that before, but he makes a point. Two families, twenty-four years.
No, I don't think that is healthy. But neither is what we have now.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:21 PM
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23. This would be consistent with our descent into Imperial Rule |
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Caesar vs. Pompey, circa the 21st Century.
"The Republic be damned, the only choice we have left is Good Emperors versus Bad Emperors."
It is difficult to make exact analogies of America to Rome, but there are many striking similarities.
Myself, I tend towards the view that the Caesars (ie, whichever placeholder the BFEE selects until Emperor Jeb can assume the throne after a discreet interval) have already secured the voting process, complete with backdoors to the Central Tabulators as well as the "proprietary programming" which means a $5 vudeo poker game in Idaho has more security on the machine in which perhaps as many as one-half of Imperial Subjects will cast their "vote" in 2008 (in 2004, it was about one-third)
Florida and Georgia being touchscreen means to me that these states WILL NEVER AGAIN VOTE DEMOCRATIC FOR EMPEROR, and that eventually, the fully rigged nature will "trickle down" to ALL elections.
In my opinion, the amount with which we have to landslide the Bush Party, just to gain a "tie", increases with every election the Busheviks get away with numerous manual and electronic disenfranchisements in broad daylight.
The only question is, at what analagous "Roman Time Period" do we stand at?
Is it 55 BC or 22 AD? If a Democrat is again allowed to sit on the Imperial Throne of Amerika, perhaps it is 55 BC.
But it is compeltely unsurprising that a dying (or dead) American Republic would increasingly be controlled by smaller and smaller cliques.
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Wed Oct-05-05 05:25 PM
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24. it sucks. I feel like ancient Rome and we all know how THAT went. |
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