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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:07 PM
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BREAKING: ROVE'S GONNA LIE
you heard it here first!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:08 PM
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1. NOOOOO!!!
Rove lie? OMG!:sarcasm:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:09 PM
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2. No posting foregone conclusions!
We :bounce: already :bounce: know :bounce: that!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:10 PM
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3. Methinks this has already happened.
Now he's trying to patch it up. Too late, KKKarl.
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:16 PM
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7. Maybe or maybe not.
NPR is reporting that during his previous three testimonies before the grand jury he had immunity which means he can't be charged for lying under oath. That means no false testimony or purjury charges.

He's certainly going to try to spin this and correct any past lies in order to deflect blame but they already have Robert Novak rolling over on him and who knows who else. Miller cut a deal so that her testimony will only cover Libby and not Rove which may mean the bastard walks in the end. Libby released her a year ago but she still went to jail because she would have been forced to testify about Rove but her new deal means she only has to talk about Libby but can't be asked about Rove. Given how many White house big wigs who came to see her in prison it does make me think what they promised her to stay in jail for 89 days instead of telling the truth about Rove.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:42 PM
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14. I never heard Rove had immunity
I doubt that's true.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:43 PM
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15. Immunity does not protect you from perjury.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:10 PM
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21. Right you are. Perjury would be a new crime.
You're immunized against self-incrimination so you can't take the 5th. If you then lie, you expose yourself to perjury charges for that. Thus Fitz may have expected Karl to lie under oath and been using the immunity provision to set a trap for him.

Also, the immunity only means that they can't charge you based on your testimony. If they have other sources of information, they can use them to get you, but they have to show that those sources were developed independently of your testimony.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:19 PM
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19. Whatever. Sounds like a lot of hooey to me.
nt
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:22 PM
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10. I think so too
It sounds like he has had contradictory testimony before the grand juries, and he's going through a last gasp attempt to explain himself, before he is indicted.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:14 PM
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4. Impossible, he sweats when he lies...
of course he sweats when he eats so...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:14 PM
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5. Even his THOUGHTS are lies.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:16 PM
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6. The more CONfusion, the more opportunity to escape.
You are toast Blossum. Burn baby burn.
Looks like sour wry from here.

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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:17 PM
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8. They Call That Perjury
I put my faith in Fitzgerald and Grand Jury to see through that. They've formed their opinions already, and realize that rove is desperate to save his Ass, using whatever means necessary.

If he lies, it better be an incredibly good one. But on his way down, he may knock over a couple of his cronies, resulting in more indictments than are now planned.

Looks like October could get interesting. I still am hoping for a Home Run. For the moment, there is reason to believe.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:20 PM
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9. Let him
Heh...heh...heh...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:23 PM
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11. I wonder if George will write a 'to the teacher type letter' to Fitz
saying he needs Karl. Then, can that question be followed up with this question - are there any Republicans 'writhing' a please resign/Nixon type letter to Dick and George saying it's over - for the good of the country?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:16 PM
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17. NOT A CHANCE - don't you understand that the Bush presidency is
PAYBACK for the Nixon resignation/Watergate??
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:28 PM
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12. He must
If he tells the truth, he would burst into flames.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:28 PM
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13. Waas: Rove's accounts have "evolved" over time:
http://whateveralready.blogspot.com/2005/10/rove-before-grand-jury-in-morning.html

Rove before grand jury in the morning

White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove will testify tomorrow morning for a fourth time before the federal grand jury investigating the Valerie Plame matter, according to sources close to the investigation.

Rove will appear voluntarily, but during tomorrow's session, Rove will be pressed about issues as to why his accounts to the FBI and grand jury have changed, or evolved, over time. He will also be questioned regarding contacts with other senior administration officials, such as then-deputy National Security advisor Stephen J. Hadley and I. Lewis Libby, the chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney in the critical week before the publication of columnist Robert Novak's column on July 14, 2003, which outed Plame as a covert CIA operative.

Rove is also likely to be asked more detailed questions about his conversation with Time magazine Matthew Cooper on July 11, 2003, in which Cooper himself has testified to the grand jury that Rove had told him that Valerie Plame was employed by the CIA, and had played a role in having her husband, ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, selected to go on his controversial fact-finding mission on behalf of the CIA. Rove's previous grand jury appearances had occurred prior to Cooper's own testimony to the grand jury.

posted by murray waas at 12:52 PM

http://whateveralready.blogspot.com/2005/10/rove-before-grand-jury-in-morning.html
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:45 PM
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16. That might be great ...
Nothing like a pissed-off (after being pissed on) grand jury. Cuffs, please, bailiff.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:17 PM
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18. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle..
than for Karl Rove to tell the truth. It just isn't in him.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:29 PM
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20. Birds gotta fly,...
...fish gotta swim.
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