Does anyone keep a tally of dead Iraqis?

[question everything]

No, not the ones who died during the war and before Hussein was captured. I am sure that no one bothered then to keep track beyond the "hundred of thousands."

But in the past several months, when every day there is at least one suicide bombing, or just a simple attack, we do read that, say, 10 Iraqis or 50 Iraqis or 3 Iraqis were killed. I suspect that most in this country, as long as they are not U.S. soldiers, just glance at the news. But I wonder whether anyone counts how many Iraqis have died, not to mentioned injured, by the "insurgents."

[Az]

1. Yes, their mothers keep track of every single one lost

They count the loss in tears.

[Crunchy Frog]

2. This is the closest thing that I know of to it.

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx

It's mostly tracking fatalities among Iraqi soldiers and police, but it does try to keep track of civilian bombing victims as well.

Edited to add this site. http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/

[stevedeshazer]

3. Here

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

[question everything]

7. Thank you. I shudder just to see the home page

I am glad that there are some who do care, who do count.

[lotus]

4. depleted uranium poisoning deaths too

Probably not, and how would you count them... in addition to civilians actually shot/bombed, you'd also need to count the massive amount of people that are or will get sick from depleted uranium poisoning. That stuff is nasty! You get some exposure to that, and you will die! It may take a while, but severe illness and death is pretty much inevitable. You can't even detoxify the stuff.

Its amazing there's no outcry against the stuff. A while back people were all excited about forgotten land mines but that's nothing compared to the effects of depleted uranium poisoning.

Not to mention the 10's or even 100's of thousands of our own troops that'll eventually meet their own demise from the stuff.

[niallmac]

8. Why are we using depleted uranium?

Are Iraqi buildings traditionally built out of heavy duty depleted uranium armor? I thought they were made from wood and plaster and cinder block and stuff like that.
I know we only use smart bullets that do not kill or injure non combatants and that none of
the combatants are defending their country and families but rather they are just evil bad people like Bluto and the Beagle Boys and Snidely Whiplash and Professor Moriarity. I understand that. I just wonder why we need to use depleted uranium and why the press does not wonder also.

[lotus]

11. Because its heavy

Depleted uranium is the heaviest substance there is, so its quite effective as a projectile, except for the toxic mess it leaves behind.

Anyway, just to be clear, I know we used this during the initial invasions (both the first and second times). I have no idea if the soldiers continue to use it on a daily basis -- there's no logical reason to use it NOW, so I'd suspect not but I don't know for sure. However, once used the damage is done and is extremely problematic to clean up, and I doubt anyone is trying to clean it up. Its toxic years and years later. Particles of it blow around. Kids play on the blown-up tank rubble that is contaminated with it. Etc. Its the gift that keeps on giving.

[niallmac]

13. I wonder if we use DU because that's what we have.

Maybe we stopped making ordinary run of the mill ordinance. I never thought the phrase 'conventional warfare' would be a source of nostalgic comfort to me but it is.

[Just Me]

5. Are you talking about all the innocent Iraqi men, women & children,...

,...who had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11?

No!!! Hell, NO!!! :grr:

[libodem]

6. good point

they should be considered casualties of war and counted as collateral damage...Bush must be very proud of the beautiful life he has bought to these people. I'd sure like a tally of all the civilians killed in this occupation for oil and Halliburton profits. I'd like to see the statistics of deaths in one year prior to the occupation and what they look like now. Or even how many maimed and mutilated compared to post occupation. What a failure, what a quagmire, what a stinking tar pit, sinkhole, quicksand rathole mess.....democracy my ass

[niallmac]

9. What bums me out a lot about the our future

is that I have come to believe quite a bit in the idea of Karma. i think that is about all I need to say.

[Mnemosyne]

10. Thank you naill. I pray that Lennon was right. n/t

[NNN0LHI]

12. Thread killer below. Sorry

What are we doing with all the bodies?

[NNN0LHI]

14. See what I mean? I never get an answer to that question

I have asked it a hundred times and </crickets> every time. I wonder if there were some German citizens asking that same question about 70 years ago?

Don