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thecodewarrior Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:21 PM
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#2 Abu Azzam Back in the news.
http://thecodewarrior.com/index.php?blog=5&title=he_s_back_u_s_snags_al_qaeda_no_2_s_lett&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

"The United States has intercepted a letter from the No. 2 Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri (search) to the terror network's leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (search), Pentagon officials told FOX News. The letter says that Muslim terrorists have developed a detailed plan for creating an Islamic state centered on Iraq (search) and including neighboring countries as well as the destruction of Israel."

Sure a detailed plan. I've stored a series of articles in my blog about #2 guys. This story of a plan coincides with Bush BS about terrorists wanting to control the Iraq. Its a phony story and a page out of the same old play book.

They've captured and killed this guy alot. If there were no terrorists, the neocons would go out and make some for job security for our weapons contractors stock portfolios to stay the course at 300%
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seattlemetal Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:22 PM
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1. ok so which #2 is this? cause theres been half a dozen #2's....
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:30 PM
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5. Welcome to DU, seattlemetal (And thecodewarrior)
:hi:


BTW, it's going to be a neat trick getting a purely fundamental Islamic government in place past all of the US puppets. Maybe a shadow government, given the insurgents have infiltratred all aspects of the Iraqi government.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:03 AM
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6. Al Zawahiri is the reall #2
has been since he merged his Egyptian Islamic Jihad group with Al Qaida in '98 Those other "number 2's" are just to grab press attention for the Admin
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:23 PM
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2. Wasn't he captured - again - last week?
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:22 AM
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10. I thought he was killed - again - last week.
More lives than a cat, I tell ya! LOL.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:27 PM
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3. There have been other intercepted terrorist plans for domination of the ME
PNAC comes to mind.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:28 PM
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4. DEBKAfile: The Abu Azzam reported killed in Baghdad is not Zarqawi’s ..
.. most notorious senior lieutenant ...

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=859
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thecodewarrior Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:11 AM
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8. There has been atleast
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 12:16 AM by thecodewarrior
3 different guys refered to as #2.

Its funny reading over the stories, they always refer to 'nabbing' a #2 guy, no matter what the source, or country the simuliar wording is note worthy.

Then one is nabbed one week, killed the next, nabbed a month later, killed again, killed again, then nabbed and a letter found, killed 3 time in row.

This isn't the first time they got the letter about intent to Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084
March 4, 2004

"The statement said the “fabricated al-Zarqawi memo” has been used by the U.S.-run coalition “to back up their theory of a civil war” in Iraq.

In February, the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq made public an intercepted letter it said was written by al-Zarqawi to al-Qaida leaders, detailing a strategy of spectacular attacks to derail the planned June 30 handover of power to the Iraqis. U.S. officials say al-Zarqawi may have been involved in some of the series of suicide bombings this year in Iraq."


Compare that from last year to what Bush said today:

The militants believe that controlling one country will rally the Muslim masses, enabling them to overthrow all moderate governments in the region and establish a radical Islamic empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia,” Bush said.

Don't that sound like todays talking points from Bush, and the letter from foxnews.com?

I think they have all these pre-made al CIA'duh' cooked up stories to use to pull down a scandal from the top story to page three story by fear mongering al queda as the bad guy.

So when shit hits the fan, out of the closet are the premanufactured stories told over and over and over.

Bush's messages today was a rerun of discredited talking points from last year.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:05 AM
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7. I've GOT IT!
Al Queda actually only consists of two people. That guy whose name I can't remember that Bush can't catch...damn, what's his name? No, not Saddam, the other guy. Ok, so there's him, and then there's a #2 guy. And everyone else is in this rotary club called Al Qakka. As we knock off the #2 guy, that #1 guy grabs someone from Al Qakka and names them the new #2. See, we're making progress.

Judging from the number of #2s we've apprehended or killed, I'd hate to see what the Department of Whosever the Hell Bungles This Sh*t has as an organization chart for this Al Queda entity. A box on top, and then 10,000+ guys named "something foreign sounding" all side by side on the second tier.
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thecodewarrior Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:25 AM
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9. Does anyone have a neocon
flowchart of the al queda?

I'd like to see how #2 guys are mapped out in Visio, along with that 75% leadership claimed to be wiped out.

For all the data I've seen. The real Al Queda is just UBL and his beer buddy.


UBL and his real #2 guy. Thats all there is to the real Al Queda, these two guys.

Everyone else around them are local hired mercs, and former fighters against the Russians. None are diehard loyalists are feeding off their money, like cronies bleeding MC Hammer.

But the Pentagon took these two idiots and along with the neocons scripted the ultimate Jessica Simpson hype and make over to hype Al Queda to the public as the next Russia cold war with 10,000 sleeper cells, and underground complex of caves, and training grounds.

When really its all hype, SAS, wet ops, drills masked as out of control operations gone wrong.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:23 AM
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11. Sounds like a job for The Daily Show.
:) I'm sure Jon Stewart is up to the challenge.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:31 AM
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12. If they intercepted the letter they should know where this mythical...
al-Zarqawi was. All they had to do was follow the pony express dude or go to the address on the envelope, but as usual, they failed miserably.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:06 AM
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13. Maybe all terrorists have #2 as part of their birth names.
Like "Mohammed #2 Aklaquawi", for instance.
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