What if the point of all the corruption

[bloom]

all the outrages put forth by BushCo is just a way to make people hate the government - all the better to "drown it in the bathtub"?

They have the Republicans on board with that idea - and when you criticize what BushCo is doing to a die-hard supporter - that is the response - "that it just goes to show you - the Federal government is bad and we need more States rights.

There seems to be no bad thing that is bad enough for these people to see that is just the ones in charge now who are esp. horrible - and that others (non-corporatist, for example) would be better.

I even get suspicious when Simon Rosenberg weighs in:

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=19714


Where is the country headed, anyway?

Thoughts.

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. We already know they wanted to weaken the federal government.

We know they've succeeded. I just don't know how far they're willing to go. This desire of theirs to sell the national parks tells me that there may be some behind the scene machinations to actually disjoin the United States. Once things stop being communal, what's left? It's the natural next step.

[Inland]

2. I always say:

Republicans campaign on the argument that government doesn't work, and they when they win, make it so.

Compare Clinton's FEMA to Bush IIs.

Could any other president have made the Iraq mess? Well, since Clinton and Bush I managed to avoid it, the answer is NO.

It's not the government. It's the people in charge. Lots of institutions get betrayed. Priests aren't worthy of their church, fathers not worthy of their families, and now, a president and congress not worthy of the mechanism conceived by the founding fathers, defended by the blood of the military, re-imagined by Lincoln and FDR and yes, even Reagan.

[kenny blankenship]

3. It's to replace the government with the Party

There is no salvation outside the Party. Want protection for your bidness--want your competition eliminated? Curry favor with the Party bigwigs. Want big dollar gummint contracts? What have you done for the Party lately? Want "something done" about the homosexuals? Curry favor with the Party. Want speed bumps on your street? Well, how is your credit with the Party?
Everything goes through the Party.

The idea of being "competent" to administer some concern in the public interest and doing that in a non-partisan, non-ideological way or somehow having "credentials" to do it in a non-partisan, non-ideological way, is an idea for which there is simply no room in a One Party state like ours. The only credential is Party loyalty. If you want something, and it is assumed that everyone does, and that the only reason to seek office is what would be called the profit motive--then you must give something: loyalty for advancement. No advancement or power without partisan loyalty and personal abjection before the Fuhrer.

[Burried News]

4. Great post. Party before country.

The vast majority have no concept that here in America this is not only possible but has progressed to the point where it may be irreversible. Those supposedly most opposed to Communism have in fact created the same system within a system. The GOP as Communist Party USA.

[bloom]

5. At least the communists

tried to get people jobs.

What we have seems worse than communism. There is no pretend to idealism. (Ok maybe they pretend there is "democracy" and "freedom" - but no serious attempt or expectation for the government to be doing anything for the general population).

It's looking more like fascism every day.

[Burried News]

8. I don't disagree with you. But the GOP base needs to see how

the mechanisms of their party so much resembles that which they claim to hate most. Frankly they seem to be able live with a reference to Fascism.

[EC]

6. Exactly, what they are doing,

but what I really don't get, is many of them here that are of the same mind, also complain about no continuity in certain things, like traffic laws and motor vehicle regs, and other regulations that have to be the same in every state to curtail confussion...yet the next minute, they are screaming states rights, which make different laws for each state...am I missing something?


I also don't know how they think things will get paid for or done and who will come to aid when states are overwhelmed? Also, some of these states with no state taxes like Texas, who pays for services and infrastructure?

[applegrove]

7. They certainly want to sever the trust. That is a good point. Too

bad Americans didn't go for that during Katrina. It wasn't "they should have left town" like the neocon & Rovbots were saying in days 1, 2, 3.. instead Americans were like "WHERE THE **** ARE YOU FEDS!"

[shance]

9. Government is not the problem. It is the PEOPLE WHO GOVERN

thats the problem.

[Atman]

10. It is to drain the treasury.

Hate the government will come naturally afterward.