JEFF GANNON's involvement might be brought up in leak case

[BigBearJohn]

Another intriguing possibility in the leaks case brings back the baroque personality of right-wing pressroom denizen Jeff Gannon, born James Guckert.

The New York Times reported Friday that in addition to possible charges directly involving the revelation of Valerie Wilson's identity and related perjury or conspiracy charges, Fitzgerald is exploring other possible crimes. Specifically, according to the Times, the special counsel is seeking to determine whether anyone transmitted classified material or information to persons who were not cleared to receive it -- which could be a felony under the 1917 Espionage Act.

One such classified item might be the still-classified State Department document, written by an official of State's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, concerning the CIA's decision to send former ambassador Joseph Wilson to look into allegations that Iraq had tried to purchase uranium from Niger. Someone leaked that INR document -- which inaccurately indicated that Wilson's assignment was the result of lobbying within CIA by his wife, Valerie -- to right-wing media outlets, notably including Gannon's former employers at Talon News. On Oct. 28, 2003, Gannon posted an interview with Joseph Wilson on the Talon Web site, in which he posed the following question: "An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?"

Gannon later hinted, rather coyly, that he had learned about the INR memo from an article in the Wall Street Journal. He also told reporters last February that FBI agents working for Fitzgerald had questioned him about where he got the memo. At the very least, that can be interpreted as confirming today's Times report about the direction of the case.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2005/10/07/rove_inquiry/index.html

[sepia_steel]

1. nail ALL the complicent bastards.

he disgusts me.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Yes

Hopefully through this we can figure this person out. Why they were there on election night and white house only invite parties. I hope his ass gets nailed too if it's shown he was involved.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

59. uh

"I hope his ass gets nailed too"

I'm sure he's hoping for the same thing, because it means he can make some money.

[Stephanie]

2. Oh that's very good.

I had forgotten about that. He had a copy of the CIA memo? Or he saw it? Or he was told what was in it?

[LoKnLoD]

3. Rove left it on Jeffy's pillow

after a romp.

[Stephanie]

6. That is getting very close to the truth, IMO

That story is finally going to bear fruit. I couldn't be happier.

[driver8]

13. I think Jeffy was reading it during the romp...

Picture that one...

[Kurovski]

29. Well, there IS a reason why prostitutes prefer to have the tv on

while they work.

A memo can fill in in a pinch.

[Jane Austin]

4. It was a State Department memo, wasn't it?

Although i may not recall it correctly.

[Stephanie]

7. I thought it was CIA

I guess we have to read the article! lol!

Colin Powell was reading it on the AF1 flight to Africa, and others saw it who should not. Ari?

[Jane Austin]

26. It stuck in my mind because I was fantacizing about it having been ordered

up by John Bolton. :)

Seriously, I think it was written by somebody named Ford who either testified against Bolton in his hearings or who was testified about in those hearings. Carl Ford maybe?

[Stephanie]

56. ok I read the article - you're right, it came from State >

One such classified item might be the still-classified State Department document, written by an official of State's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, concerning the CIA's decision to send former ambassador Joseph Wilson to look into allegations that Iraq had tried to purchase uranium from Niger. Someone leaked that INR document -- which inaccurately indicated that Wilson's assignment was the result of lobbying within CIA by his wife, Valerie -- to right-wing media outlets, notably including Gannon's former employers at Talon News. On Oct. 28, 2003, Gannon posted an interview with Joseph Wilson on the Talon Web site, in which he posed the following question: "An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?"

Gannon later hinted, rather coyly, that he had learned about the INR memo from an article in the Wall Street Journal. He also told reporters last February that FBI agents working for Fitzgerald had questioned him about where he got the memo. At the very least, that can be interpreted as confirming today's Times report about the direction of the case.

[Canuckistanian]

5. He keeps coming back, like a bad burrito

This is one guy whose 15 minutes should have expired.
I sincerely hope he at least gets scorched by this.

[joemurphy]

9. LOL. You're right about Bulldog. He just keeps popping up.

I for one would really like to know where he got the Air Force One Memo. From his old pal, Ari Fleischer?

[MADem]

39. From Scotty, who came with chimp from TX and was Ari's #2 nt

[Ksec]

8. This keeps getting wackier and wackier

Wow, the twists and turns are amazing

[FreedomAngel82]

17. And the sad thing is

if this was a novel you couldn't make it up. :crazy:

[Burried News]

10. It just keeps getting better and better.

I love the way these stories just merge one into the other so that nothing ever really goes away.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. We need a chart!

[MADem]

40. A PIE CHART

Because the pie, like the chimp's bullshit, just keeps a-gettin' HIGHER!

[SpiralHawk]

11. By my calculations, Jeff Gannon's natal Moon is at 7 Pisces

give or take a degree or two. Transiting Uranus is zapping around in that neighborhood.

Thus, after casting the Mighty Mighty Celestial Oracle Planetoid Replicas, I can predict with Absolute Infallibility (TM) that Jeff Gannon WILL continue to shoot lightning bolts out of his butt.

And quite publically at that.

Yr. 'umble savant, SH

[spuddonna]

18. LMAO "Transiting Uranus"!

Yes, I believe that's how Jeffy got pulled into this whole mess in the first place: he was definitely transiting someone's anus... :evilgrin:

[SpiralHawk]

20. It funny - and its also koZmiQuelY tRuE

Uranus is still in the first Decanate of Pisces, and that's where Guckert's Moon is placed - at about 7 degrees.

[spuddonna]

21. LOL!!! "Guckert's Moon"

Oh man, I almost spit my coffee out...

"Guckert's Moon is placed - at about 7 degrees." Yes, I believe I saw that in one of those photos from his porn site...

I have no clue about astrology, but your symbolism is killng me here! :D

[Kurovski]

30. It's funny what a jokester the universe can be.

Is laughter the music of the spheres?

[NNN0LHI]

12. The wingnuts would really rather forget Guckert/Gannon n/t

[Kurovski]

31. And good luck to them on that count

...or however many counts Ganguck garners.

[moobu2]

15. He's like a bad rash, clean him off one spot and he shows up elsewhere

[Joe Turner]

27. Yes, LOL perfect pic

Mr. Gannon/Guckert is like a bad case of herpes....:rofl:

[Occulus]

36. .

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

(Big Gay Al voice)

HIIIIIIiiii, Karl! How are youuuuu?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kurovski]

55. Sssuper, thanks for asking!!!

Oh! My Carrot Cake!!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

60. omg

:spray:

[ronnykmarshall]

64. Hey Girlfriend!!

Miss Thang needs to quit.

[seafan]

19. Read somewhere here today that Harriet Miers controlled WH press passes.

Maybe she knows something about Gannon in all of this as well.

As I recall, Gannon bragged about seeing an internal (State Dept?)memo concerning Plame *setting up her husband's trip to Niger*.... (false).... and he later even ASKED Joe Wilson about it during an interview! Then, there was news that the FBI soon talked with Gannon, wanting to know what he knew about that memo.

Man, they are really circling their wagons now.

All of these stories are pointing to the same case, IMO, and that is that the neocons were so intent on having their Iraq War for oil domination, that they were hell bent on destroying anyone who got in their way.

Plame, Brewster-Jennings, Joe Wilson, the generals trying to warn them, El-Baradei of the IAEA, Scott Ritter, and many others.

Fitzgerald is very smart in that he started his investigation at the periphery and now is drilling down deeper and deeper into the evidence, and lo and behold, there is a cavern of poisonous snakes in the middle, and they all intertwine.

[BigBearJohn]

22. This tie-in with H. Miers is SIGNIFICANT. We should tell others about it!

Just think of the ramifications!!!!

[Sydnie]

23. As Jon Stewart would say ... "Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?"

Harriet was the pimp for Gannon/Guckert? She gave him his pass?

If this is true, then I can say, without a doubt, that blivet** has crossed over into certifiably insane land. How could he think that this little tidbit would not be found out?

I am beginning to think Maher might be right ... blivet** might be tired and he might want to quit ... but they won't let him. So, he is giving it to himself, IN PUBLIC, so they demand that he go home ... which is where he wants to be anyway (as long as that Cindy woman is not there anyway).

[Occulus]

37. This is turning into a soap opera administration.

Seriously. And if you could gather them all into one room at once and guarantee they'd all shut the fuck up for ten minutes, you'd have a real life replay of the end of a Scooby-Doo episode.

Jesus CHRIST!!!

[AntiCoup2K4]

38. Does that include the part where Uncle Dick mumbles......

"We would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids at Democratic Underground"

[BigBearJohn]

24. Here's a link about Harriet and WH Press Passes

05/2005
Brief WH Bomb Scare

Forgive us if every time we hear about "suspicious packages" at the White House, we think of Jeff Gannon,
but it turns out the WH was locked down briefly this morning; someone "slipped the package under the fence." Ahem.

And speaking of suspicious packages: We hear that Harriet Miers was once in charge of renewing press passes...

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/white-house/index.php



Press Passes!?

True story. A friend just informed me that when he contacted the White House last year to renew his press pass, his
contact was Harriet Miers. Press passes?! That doesn't exactly put her very high up on the totem pole now does it?
I don't suppose she had anything to do with Jeff Gannon . . .

http://bunniediehl.worldmagblog.com/bunniediehl/archives/018836.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/3/115019/566

[nashville_brook]

25. gannon/guckert was instrumental in the whole plan -- his role was to be

the bottom feeder with the low-down. i've seen it referenced like, "this story was 'everywhere.' even that Talon operation had it."

can't remember where...of course. maybe someone else remembers.

[Pachamama]

28. "Gannon/Guckert" was the "bottom-feeder"?

:rofl: :spray:

Sorry - that image just made me laugh so hard....

[Kurovski]

32. Yep, he's just another "Rim-Job".

[jazzjunkysue]

51. (Insert Deep Throat joke here.)

:rofl:

[nashville_brook]

69. nyuk nyuk

:)

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

33. "... pressroom denizen Jeff Gannon, born James Guckert..."

...James Guckert or Johnny Gosch? Sorry if this is an unwelcome aside---thought it deserved a look:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/260505newleads.htm

Maybe this has already been debunked, I haven't seen any follow-ups.

[Liberal In Texas]

34. Not unwelcome by me. I think we need a really good DNA test on this

guy.

G/G/G...

That program that Andy was on just before he died? The host said they were going to do a test. Did it ever happen? (Not that I thought that that test would be accurate...) No.

Gannon/Guckert/Gosch. I think so.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

35. If it is Gosch...

...I don't even want to think about where that story would lead. A reputable investigative reporter would need to be pretty brave to go after this one. These people play for keeps.

[Liberal In Texas]

41. Yes. Read a book by John DeCamp.

He's an ex-senator from Nebraska. There's a new 2005 edition out. One must buy it directly from his Nebraska office.

This stuff goes back to George the First. It's scray.

I have been knocked down on this forum by Skinner himself because they don't put much credence to it. Andy Stephenson thought a lot about it, but now he's dead.

Don't look so much at the sites that are suspect, but the tale is out there.

Thames Television in Britian did a whole show on it. They sent a crew to Nebraska and stayed for a few months. It was surpressed. There is only a rough draft copy that remains. It was delivered clandistinly to DeCamp and is on the internet if you know how to find it.

Many people are dead now that investigated the story. It is very scary.

I lived in Nebraska and knew some of the principles. I know they were corrupt. The G/G/G thing should still be investigated.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

43. I will try to order...

...DeCamp's book Monday. Do you happen to recall the title?

Here's a piece by Jerry Mazza I first stumbled upon at onlinejournal.com. It's not there anymore. I think it ties in, at least indirectly, with the Johnny Gosch story. You may have already read it, if not, it's worth it.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/317430.shtml

[Liberal In Texas]

44. Ah. The Hunter Thompson connection. Here's how you get the book:

AWT Inc.
PO Box 85461
Lincoln, NE.
68501

email:[e-mail]

I found it best calling the office directly,
[phone]

Save this now before the mods delete it.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

45. The Franklin Cover-Up...

...I answered my own question as I went back to reread that article---it had been a while. Decamp's book get's a mention in the second paragraph. Bad memory on my part.

[Liberal In Texas]

47. No problem. I bought 2 copies earlier this year, and sent one to some

friends in Nebraska.

The wife of an old friend started reading it. She got so freaked out, she couldn't finish the book.

Her husband, my friend from college, also knew some of these principles in the book. We went to university with them, and I worked with them on a newspaper in Omaha.

Were we all pretty weirded out?

Do we think it's true? Oh yes.

And we think the G/G/G connection has roots. The management of this site has told me it's been discredited. Bull shit. If Andy were alive...

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

49. Sounds like a shocker...

...I'll look forward to reading it. The DNA test for a sure way to debunk the G/G/G connection should've been easy enough. Why no credible follow-up with such results? Did DU management give you a source of the discrediting of G/G/G?

[Liberal In Texas]

52. I must tell you. There really is nothing in the book about G/G/G.

By the number of post, you see kind of new. (Nothing wrong with that, we've all been new.)

Earlier, there were a great number of threads on DU. when Andy was alive, that were trying to link the Gannon Gossh thing. It ran to the thousands. They would have to repost one tread and make it another because there was so much interest. It probably amounted to around 5 or 6 thousand posts.

Because Rense and Prison Planet picked up on the story, DU decided that it was discredited. I don't hold a lot of credence with either of those sites, and nor does DU as they are Holocaust deniers. But just because they picked up on the story, all of sudden it became verboten on DU. DU does not want to be associated with outlandish "weather wars" or "911" conspiracy people.

The "Franklin" people kind of got slotted in there, for what ever reason.

I firmly believe that if Andy was still alive, this would still be a hot topic on DU. He would not give up.

They would delete stuff, and then it might be back because of Andy's insistence. Now, you can't even find it in the archives, let alone Andy's name.

I think this is all about not wanting to look foolish. When the tsunami stuff happened, there were a bunch of thread's that opined that it was man made. Someone at the NYT picked that up and editorially said that DU was nothing more than conspiracy nuts.

The mgt. here didn't like that, and put the clamp down. However, Andy was still able to keep the G/G/G thing going.

I've brought it up a few times, since Andy's death, and I've been taken out. The mgt. has told me the story is desecrated and that's that.

You can't fight city hall.

-sorry for bad grammar or spelling-

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

53. I appreciate the info...

...best we let this aside go now, at least on this thread. Thanks again.

[Liberal In Texas]

54. My pleasure. And you are correct. Have a nice rest of the night.

-l

[troubleinwinter]

58. Lib and Mr. J-

The Gannon "Wrinkles" threads (20 of 'em) are linked on this page in Demopedia. There are also some synopses of the threads. http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Gannongate_Wrinkles

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

62. Very helpful. Thank you. nt.

[chalky]

67. Yeah, thanks for that info. I'd always wondered what happened to

those threads and why that got dropped so quickly from here.

Is that why we don't hear any more about the Iraq jail bust, too?

Wow, our fear of looking foolish is quite an Achilles heel. Had the Rovester know about it he could have shut us down years ago.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

46. Thanks. nt.

[Liberal In Texas]

48. No problem.

pm me if you have more questions.

I would put out an email address, but I'm afraid to.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

50. OK. nt.

[hiley]

61. Link to original Wrinkles thread first one

will take you to all of them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3144209&mesg_id=3144209

[chalky]

68. Thanks!

n/t

[enid602]

71. revelation

I'm not sure the viewing public would be able to digest the implications of such a revelation; I don't think people in power in either political spectrum would touch it with a ten foot pole. Too demoralizing for the country.

[enid602]

42. Blair

Don't forget too that Gannon bragged to frat initiates at a function at his West Chester College reunion in PA that he had to leave early for DC as he had to meet with Tony Blair. White House logs later showed Gannon in and out at the same time Blair was in town. This might have some bearing on why an otherwise seemingly normal Blair was intent on cooperating with GWB on Iraq, despite the foolhardiness of it, and despite the wishes of his countrymen.

[Amonester]

57. Kick (n/t)

:popcorn:

[earth mom]

63. Ah...Gannon again.

I for one, would love to see this mystery solved-not only the REAL reason Gannon was at the WH in the first place but also the G/G/G connection.... somehow I can't shake that this is all entwined and goes back to the Franklin case and Poppa *.

[ronnykmarshall]

65. Excuse the pun

but I'd love to see Jeff go down!

Sorry, I had to say it.

[Kurovski]

70. What I really want to see is

all the big-time big-boys around him taking it deep.

Show me the money shot.

[ronnykmarshall]

72. Is it hot in here?

[Kurovski]

73. It's an absolute flamer, ronny!

[lanlady]

66. yeeeahhhhh baby

It's all coming together.

Has anyone been able to figure out the identity of Jeff's lover in the White House? Any speculation?