Research Help: "Clinton Osama Head on a Silver Platter."

[Ioo]

I have this guy that keeps coming to my blog and saying, 9/11 and just about everything worng with Bush is because Clinton refused Osama's head on a silver platter...

I have heard that this is flat out a lie, so, I need a link or something to a real story about how this is BS.

[Atman]

1. Total bullshit. It was offered in Tupperware.

Hey, sorry. Couldn't resist. You should be able to Google this easy enough.

http://www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/WebX?[e-mail]7lKqf.0@.ee9cb2a/27

[DURHAM D]

2. Just say - this is a lie and has been debunked repeatedly and

you have no interest in discussing it.

[politicaholic]

3. try this

http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/20/us.strikes.01/

He shouldn't say that Clinton didn't do anything. He made an unprecidented attack on Osama bin Laden and Al Queda.

[TomClash]

4. He's talking about Clinton "refusing" Sudan's offer

to hand him over in 1996 and 1997. Mohammed Ijaz, a Pakistani-American financier, is largely responsible for this story. It is mostly garbage. Everyone except Ijaz knew Turabi would never turn over bin Laden. In fact, Ijaz later had to amend his statements to say Turabi would "watch bin Laden" or something like that. Bin Laden was paying Turabi millions at the time - no way was Turabi going to give him up.

[notadmblnd]

5. Clinton tried to go after Osama

but the republican controlled congress wouldn't allow it. They all cried and complained about clinton getting us into a war that would last for years.

[Ioo]

6. I would LOVE to find a story on this....

Because this would shut this guy Tony up

Here is the post
http://www.bushsamerica.com/index.php/2005/10/06/bush_s_speech_please_love_me_again

[notadmblnd]

11. here are some quotes you can google

this I grabbed from another Du'er, it was posted the other day and I thought at the time this would come in handy. When I saw your post I thought of it. It should give you plenty of ammo to slap your wingnut down. Good Luck!

Quotes from Republicans when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia:

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"You can support the troops but not the president."
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

" President...is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
-Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

A big thanks to texpatriot2004 I hope you don't mind.:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4986576


on edit: this is in regards to Bosnia not Osama but it goes a long way to show the Republican attitude towards Clinton taking any part in sort of war like action.

[agincourt]

7. The official 911 bush white wash report even debunks it.

Saddam should have said he would have killed Bin Laden but Clinton refused, he'd probably still be in business. The atrocities of the current Sudan government will always be forgiven, because it gave RW media operatives something to spew out about Clinton. I don't know what to tell you, because they will probably spew the lie no matter what the evidence to the contrary is.

[kywildcat]

8. some links

http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html

http://www.sumeria.net/politics/binladen.html
http://www.bushwatch.com/binladens.htm

You know, something else to consider with the freepers.....Colin Powell petitioned congress for funds FOR the TALIBAN May 2001. During this time, the Taliban were destroying ancient mountain carvings stating that the art work (which was part of the world heritage) were against Islam. In a way, the US bribed the taliban with 43 million if I recall to stop blowing up these huge pieces of art carved into the mountains. It was a big deal at the time and I am still surprised that it was not mentioned after 911, that the US had in a way funded the taliban and its extremism.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010604/20010522

[kywildcat]

9. Sorry..meant to add

The Bush family would have lost a considerable amount of money if Clinton had gone after OBL. Clinton was stopped cold on that front.
That was the point of the links.
Sorry, its late.

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. Try this.

http://www.blogd.com/archives/000526.html

[notadmblnd]

12. ok, here's something solid

this is from a December 2001 story from Africa.com. The bold in the last paragraph is my emphasis because I think that it is important to point out that the *bush admin was offered too.

The article, written by British investigative journalist David Rose, is categorical in its conclusions that Clinton policymakers' hard line hostility toward Khartoum blinded them to an opportunity that could have increased the prospects for preventing not only the attacks on September 11 but also the bombings of the American embassies in Africa in 1998.

However, a series of interviews by allAfrica.com suggested that the reality was, at the least, more complex than Rose contends.

snip: According to the article, which appears in the magazine's January issue, the Sudanese government "made repeated efforts" to share with Washington "copious intelligence" on Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network. The information was collected by the Sudanese intelligence agency, Mukhabarat, from the early to the mid-1990s, when Osama Bin Laden was living in Sudan.

Throughout the past decade, until just weeks before the September 11 terror attacks in Washington and New York, Rose says, Khartoum offered its intelligence to the State Department and other U.S. officials, but was always turned down. He cites the former American Ambassador to Sudan, Timothy Carney, as saying that, as a consequence, Washington "lost access to a mine of material on Bin Laden and his organization."

more...http://allafrica.com/stories/200112070235.html