Pigs, PIGS are flying high tonight 'cause Andrew

[Blue_Roses]

Sullivan actually dissed Bush to the point of no return on Bill Maher's show tonight. I was excited to see Ben Affleck was a guest, but wow--no, WOW--Sullivan made the VERY CLEAR talking points AGAINST Bush. He is SO PISSED at this administration! I'm afraid--very afraid--that I'm might ...actually agree with Sullivan. Am I in the twilight zone...:shrug::crazy:

Unbelievable...

Damn, with Coulter pissed and Sullivan pissed at Bush this isn't fun anymore:evilgrin:

[adarling]

1. So did She-Man

That i thought i would never see....Pigs flying and hell freezing over!!!

[niyad]

3. coulter actually said something against bush? do tell, please!!

[adarling]

14. oh it was great

Said he was dumb essentially...maybe someone else can remember better, that has photogenic memories. She called Miers a cleaning lady and just went nuts. She still is crazy evil though so don't get your hopes up too much, but i never thought i would see the day in this 22 year old body that the man woman would ever diss her god

[Mabus]

38. That gurgling sound she made

really creeped me out. Come to think of it, she may have just overmedicated herself on some of Rush's leftovers. :eyes:

[ShockediSay]

53. So now the freeper candidates are going to tell us they are independent

So now the freeper candidates are going to tell us they are independent of command influence.

A little late, light and more than a little unlikely since their command influence is on K street.

[Blue_Roses]

7. LOL!

Yep --"She-Man" was nuts! Who to blame-the liberals? Nope, she can't blame the "liberals" for this one.
:rofl:

[Mabus]

31. What was with Coulter?

She looked/acted more incoherent than usual. We thought she was stoned or drunk or something.

[adarling]

33. her deal with Satan is starting to expire

so her soul is being torn between hell and earth....quite normal :)

[DBoon]

37. No, her crystal meth is starting to expire....

nt

[Mabus]

41. She's got "Harriet Miers" eyes.

:scared:

[adarling]

42. SHE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are the same person, she is ying and yang...the next step is the development of John Roberts and his googly eyes...eeewwww:puke:

[Mabus]

45. So does Elizabeth Dole, it's a tell!!!

We know how far they are into their indoctrination by how their eyes look!

[Mabus]

43. I just thought the she-bot's electronic implant

(hidden cleverly as an Adam's Apple) was short circuiting.

[jazzjunkysue]

59. !

:rofl:

[Carolab]

2. Maybe cuz it's starting to dawn on them that they've been HAD too.

Idiots.

[MADem]

9. You said it--IDIOTS

I say give them the same weight we gave them in the past--NONE.

They are broken clocks, and gosh, they are right this time.

Selfish bastards, the lot of them.

[Carolab]

17. May the (avian) bird (flu) of paradise fly up their noses. n/t

[rusty charly]

4. they're just

revealing their gullibility and stupidity

[evlbstrd]

5. Sullivan was much more surprising to me.

Coulter still tried to defend the overall agenda. Sullivan slammed it.

[MADem]

6. What, Mr. "Support the Iraq War???"

He's a putz Republican. He whines about HIS issues but cannot see the suffering of others. Screw Andrew Sullivan...no, don't. He does not practice safe sex, from what I understand.

Far better to ignore that whining dilettante putz. He rode the GOP train like a happy cowboy for the longest time, and now he wakes up?

To hell with him.

[helderheid]

12. Not to hell with him. I'll welcome ANYONE who wakes up.

[MADem]

21. You need to read some of his shit

WRT NOLA, the Iraq War and other issues...you'd throw him back. On his lockstep support for this disgrace of a war (which he, by his orientation, HIV positive status, and age, is COMPLETELY PROTECTED from getting involved in) is nothing short of DISGUSTING. Stick the noble cause up yer arse, Andrew!!!

Go here, and be sure to peruse his archives, where most of his drumbeating is: http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

Fuck him, the warmonger. Some can say better late than never, but I say where the hell was he when it MATTERED? It's POPULAR and EASY to bash the monkey nowadays....everyone is doing it, save 27% of the country that are complete and total idiots.

I don't give the sun credit for coming up every morning, and that wishywashy, steroid-loaded, Quisling asshole-bastard gets no credit from me.

He supports a war that has killed my fellow servicemembers needlessly, has left widows, widowers, parents and children devastated, has ruined the lives of those who came back horribly maimed, when he will never have to go himself.

Again I say, fuck him!

[gumby]

25. You go MADem!!

Thanks for those wonderful words about A.S.

Never could stand to read his crap nor listen to his accented voice.

[MADem]

32. I'll tell ya

I think his "change of heart" is more about the polls than anything else--and by extension, his profit margins as a "gay conservative" pundit. If Monkeyboy was still polling above fifty percent, he'd still be banging the drum for him.

He's a power whore, and I give him credit for nothing more than seeing which way the wind is blowing around the CAT IV Monkey White House hurricane. I'd trust him as far as I could toss him with one arm tied behind my back.

He should stick with whining about the Catholic church. He has no real understanding of American politics.

[Blue_Roses]

26. while I agree with you

*archives* don't mean shit now...the tide is turning and I heard it first hand tonight. I was watching to see Ben Affleck and he was stuttering around Sullivan. Ben Affleck actually said, " I disagree with everything he says when I read his blog, but tonight..."...very weird...

[MADem]

35. Andrew wrote this shit on 26 SEP of this year

Anyone who attends rallies organized by International ANSWER deserves no quarter and no hearing. And the notion that abruptly abandoning the beleaguered Iraqi people to the tender mercy of Jihadists is somehow "progressive" boggles the mind. As Hitch observed of the motley crew in Washington last weekend: "Was there a single placard saying, "No to Jihad"? Of course not. Or a single placard saying, "Yes to Kurdish self-determination" or "We support Afghan women's struggle"? Don't make me laugh."

Fuck him. He is so goddamn stupid, so full of his own hubris and blinded by something far worse than tunnel vision that he cannot even conceive of the concept of letting the UN help us out of this goddamn mess. And he takes that drunken popinjay Hitchens SERIOUSLY.

He is an ass of the highest order.

[Blue_Roses]

49. I don't know if using this quote is going to help...

ANSWER disappoints ...PERIOD.

[MADem]

50. Sure they do, but the point is he failed, totally, to realize that most of

the people at that rally could give TWO SHITS about ANSWER. His words DENY their PURPOSE. They were there to bring the troops HOME, not support those clowns in any way, shape or form.

But no, he has to whine on about the agenda of the assholes on the stage in control of the microphone, and ignore, totally, the agenda of the people who were marching around the White House, the agenda of Cindy Sheehan, and the agenda of those who turned up at the concert after the march.

It's what he DOES...he is a Quisling wuss.

[Blue_Roses]

52. I can definitely understand that

I don't know what to think of many who are "turning" on Bush, but one thing is for sure, they aren't silent anymore. Now, will that change...probably.

I was just amazed at his blatant hatred for this administration tonight. Usually they try to come across so "composed" but to see him and Coutler going ballistic was sweet:D:

Let me just indulge myself in their misery for a moment...:evilgrin:

[Marr]

61. Affleck should've pointed out Sullivan's bullshit.

If he's read Sullivan's blog, he knows what the guy is: a hate-spewing moral coward. His bailing on Bush at this late date is nothing but more moral cowardice.

[fooj]

34. Madem...he voted for Kerry in 2004.

I understand where you are coming from, though. He was a shill for the longest time. Something changed that, IMO. I believe that it was Abu that made him see the error of his ways.

Peace.

[MADem]

40. He voted for Kerry because he vacations in Provincetown MA

...and he could not possibly get a table at any of the good restaurants there had he claimed to vote otherwise.

MA is the one state that allows gay MARRIAGE--not civil unions, actual MARRIAGE--and that is a 'thing' with him. He whined about Kerry's position on the issue, but figured best to go with what his pals in PTown were saying, lest he never get that nice table on the patio by the beach.

All the while, he supports the Iraq war--let him go fight it, the chickenshit!

[walldude]

54. I agree..

Sullivan has an audience and he used his platform to support the Administration even though he's gay and this is the most anti-gay administration ever. I will welcome people who have been fooled by the likes of Sullivan and have seen the light but I will not welcome people who used their position to support an administration they knew was corrupt. Fuck him.

[helderheid]

8. I FLIPPED I was so happy about tonight!

[shenmue]

10. I wonder if...

he'll be disgruntled enough to leave the party?

[Blue_Roses]

22. well, I don't know if he will leave his party

but he did endorse Kerry.

[jefferson_dem]

11. Great to hear that Sullivan is finally off the reservation

Though i'm not sure he was ever a *total* myrmidonic chimp supporter. He has always been one conservative leaner i could tolerate.

What's his beef now, so to speak?

[QC]

13. I wish I could respect Andrew Sullivan,

but he has disappointed me too many times in the past for me ever to trust him again.

Still, it's a great sign that even so worshipful a sycophant as he has abandoned the Boy King.

[MADem]

23. Yeah, me too, see my ranting post above

I find him to be a Quisling on a good day. A good mind, gone rancid, I believe.

[K8-EEE]

15. I Believe Sullivan Is Sincere -- Somethings Up With Ann Though

It's like she was put up to it -- of course I never think she believes half the stuff that comes out of her mouth anyhow, she just performs a propaganda role with her "opinions," this one is what....rope-a-dope? "Outrage" at nominating a "liberal" so that they can end up with a total puppet in the Supreme Court or...WHAT?

[fooj]

16. Sullivan is just being honest, IMO. He's one of the few,

authentic Repubs who is willing to call 'em as he sees them! I think he is deeply saddened by the lack of ethics and morality that encompasses this presidency. I take him at his word when he says that he "trusted" Shrub to do the right thing. The betrayal is what has Sullivan sickened.

I like hearing him say I don't WANT TO WIN THIS WAY. I don't want to become like them.

IMHO, I think Andrew is a compassionate, moderate human being who has had enough. I admire his courage by speaking truth to power.

It was one, hell of a great show.

[niyad]

19. bush has been proven to be a lying, incompetent time and again, so WHY

would anybody with two brain cells that arc "trust him to do the right thing"?

[MADem]

24. Andrew has been a drumbeater for the war, an apologist for the chimp

and a deny-er of the WORST and FIRST order. When the monkey would pull some shit that was outrageous to the gay community, he would be the first to claim he didn't mean it. He has far less compassion though, for dusky folk or illegal immigrants.

He is a shit, plain and simple. A WEAK PERSON.

He doesn't want to become like them?? He WAS THEM. He just wants to stay popular, thus he changes his mind.

Where was he when it was HARD to oppose that rat bastard in the WH???

[fooj]

30. I don't see him as weak. I see him as someone who was "bamboozled"...

IMO, the severity of the betrayal is what "flipped" him.

Peace.

[MADem]

46. You gotta check his blog, seriously

And read way back--you will be nothing short of DISGUSTED.

He was informed alright--by the likes of insane neocons and drunkards like his pal Hitch. He KNEW, but he is flipping only because the rest of the country is also. A day late, a dollar short.

But, it's all about keeping those net hits up, so he can get the odd job as a talking head on the tee vee.

[Blue_Roses]

28. As someone who can't stand Sullivan

I agree with you. I've watched him on Maher's show and read his blog way before the election, but tonight he really seemed like a man without a party. Sad:evilgrin:

[charlyvi]

18. Sullivan voted for Kerry.

He was just as pissed before the election. That's why he said the wingnuts deserve what they're getting. Unfortunately, we're getting it too.

[Geoff R. Casavant]

20. Are you kidding?

With Coulter angry the fun is just starting, man. Now they have to deal with her, too. Look for concrete proof of transgender surgery soon.

[marbuc]

27. Oh, it's extremely fun

to watch the Republican Party implode. :popcorn:

[Blue_Roses]

29. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

:evilgrin:

[Mabus]

36. Man, oh man, was that great or what?

Sullivan stopped being a cheerleader for * a while back but tonight, you're right, he hit it. It was refreshing.

Coulter was wacked, more than usual. Why does Maher even have her on? That's one of the reasons I so rarely watch him anymore. I mean, he calls her a friend and sticks up for her? It just pisses me off that he talks about her so much or has her own. He legitimizes her.

Ben Affleck made some great comments. He showed he's become a pretty savvy politico. He knew his stuff too.

Rushdie spoke in my town last night but we couldn't make it. It was good to hear him tonight. It had some great perspectives on some issues.

[MADem]

47. Why does he have her on??

He used to shtup her every now and again, and he feels sorry for her. He may be a dreadful turd when it comes to mature adult relationships, but he is said to be a fairly decent friend.

And then, she IS a lightning rod--gotta grow that base, even when it is simply the base for a premium cable show...

[pretzel4gore]

39. well president bush is doing his best!

how dare these coulter sullivan types betray an honest, hard working man when things are going tough? it's sad to see president bush, who has done more for ...he's helped define america, and has clean up any illusions too many held......the country didn't need new orleans and the wtc, very few presidents could have proven that! and few presidents could have proven that as long as the news says things are fine, even if they aren't...well, that's power the usa never knew it had! and now, for those who've been riding the bush rooster for years (remember ken starr? the guy made his fortune thanks to the bush family!) next thing, rush limbah will be saying things in questioning tone about president bush.....how low can they go!
a guy was lost in the desert for 6 months w/out water, and he survived very well...how? well he pretended he was living next to a lake! it helped that he was only pretending he was lost in the desert, but that's nitpicking.... president bush would understand, and applaud the courage and imagination.....
and we here at DU criticise him(!)

[fujiyama]

44. Sullivan is wrong on the war and many other issues

but he actually turned on Bush before the election...and while I'm not sure if he backed Kerry, he made it clear he wasn't voting for Bush.

[gatorboy]

48. I was watching Coulter tonite and something occured to me.

She(He?) and other righties bellow about the liberal "elite". How we all vacation at the Hamptons and drink espresso in our spare time.

But from not paying much attention to her in person until now, I've realized that it's Coulter giveing off the most elitist, arrogant vibe that I've ever seen. From her Thurston Howell III accent, to her I "Just got back from Martha's Vineyard" attitude, this woman screams "elitist snob". Who are these people kidding?

[MADem]

51. You are completely, totally and absolutely CORRECT

The LIMOSINE conservatives far outweigh the limo libs. And the thing is, they are both rich AND stupid. I suspect economic forces will cut into their profits damn soon, and they may not like living like regular folk...

They'd better hope they put some of their cash in savings or safe investments...

[fooj]

57. LMAO!!!

From her Thurston Howell III accent

Peace.

[Pushed To The Left]

55. Sullivan kicked ass on Real Time!

Sullivan seems like he's seen the light, while Coulter doesn't think Bush is right-wing enough.

[devilgrrl]

56. Sure he dissed * but I still think he's a sanctimonious git.

eom

[texpatriot2004]

58. Who was the other man? The one that said, "please explain the

difference between yellow fear and orange fear?"

[Marr]

60. They mistakenly believed they we part of Bush's "we".

They knew a small group was going to thoroughly fuck the rest of the world, and they thought it sounded great. Then they discovered they were not part of that small group. Now they're pissed.

Stupid, selfish, hateful people. And very slow on the up-take. I haven't got an ounce of pity for any of them.