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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:31 PM
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With Bush pushing fear from terra, bird flu, WMDs, etc. to the maximum...
Edited on Sat Oct-08-05 07:32 PM by NNN0LHI
...wouldn't it now be a great time for the Democrats to start pushing the benefits of having National Health care system for every American citizen? It would seem to me that combining these two issues would be something that would be of great interest to everyone.

Bush is scaring people with his be fearful of germs, bombs, crop sprayers, and even Muslims with spear guns coming out of the ocean (remember that one?).

Well dammit having medical care for everyone in the event of such things wound be very advantageous for us all. I wouldn't want some guy with the flu not seeking medical care and passing it on to many more people because he couldn't afford to go and see a doctor. Is this too hard for the Dem's to figure out?

Don
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:37 PM
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1. that makes sense
they should do it
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:43 PM
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2. It would be perfect timing to push for universal
health care.

Re the crop dusters, have they been revived? I didn't hear any terra lerts re crop dusters.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:46 PM
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3. That makes since, but something else to ponder....
I feel we are living in Orwellian times with this administration. I no long trust my government for anything.

The Bush administration likes to brain wash people so they can get their way. I'm sure many have heard of the experiments with drugs on our own military to make them better fighting machines. I would not put it past them to do large scale experiments or drug brain washing of the entire population by using a bird flu vaccine as a cover. (I know probably way off base here, but why should I trust them?)

I don't think I would be willing to take a vaccine to keep from getting the bird flue. I'll take my chances, because as I said I don't trust the government.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:58 PM
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6. vaccines = big bucks for the drug companies
bird flu = great idea to curtail the masses with martial law.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:48 PM
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4. Check this out




Cross posted at:

And here is the link to the raw data http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=943>

Note that the only group opposed to Universal health Insurance are "Neo-Con Republicans" described by Pew as "the Neo-Cons (called “Enterprisers” in the Pew study) are generally rich and white (most are married male guns owning Fox News fans) and support the PNAC foreign policy as well as the corporatist/anti-consumer domestic policy including the elimination of both government social services and regulation corporate misdeeds. They compose just 9 percent of the population and only 1 percent voted for Kerry (they are a small group, but they are the most reliable right-wing voters and campaign contributors)."

Let me emphasize the key Pew finding "They compose just 9 percent of the population and only 1 percent voted for Kerry (they are a small group, but they are the most reliable right-wing voters and campaign contributors)."

The point of the original DU append - this is a Democratic wedge issue that we can exploit now, today - in the context of Katrina and Avian Flu and "Yer Doin A Good Job Brownie."
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:52 PM
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5. Yes and it needs to be presented as a national security issue which it is
Edited on Sat Oct-08-05 07:52 PM by NNN0LHI
A HEALTHY AMERICA IS A SAFE AMERICA

Don
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:01 PM
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7. The "for profit" health insurance industry and
"for profit" hospital industry (like Mister Frist's HCA) a poured mega bucks into this issue - defeated Pennsylvania's Harris Wofford (replaced him with Santorum) and slimed Hillary over this issue.

Oedipal illegitimati (I'm trying to clean up my act as part of a run for FEMA director in a Hillary Clinton-Barbara Boxer Administration)
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:06 PM
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8. don't forget armed and dangerous dolphins accidently let loose in the gulf
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:17 PM
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9. Oh shit. And the Winnebago's Of Death. And Saddam's death fleet of ships
Edited on Sat Oct-08-05 08:18 PM by NNN0LHI
And who can forget the famous Iraqi drones Saddam was sending here to gas us all?

Don



A prototype of a drone in a military compound at the Ibn Firnas State Company in Al Taji, north of Baghdad, in this March 12, 2003 file photo.

U.S. claims on Iraqi drones `disputed'

WASHINGTON AUG. 25. Huddled over a fleet of abandoned Iraqi drones, U.S. weapons experts in Baghdad came to one conclusion: Despite the Bush administration's public assertions, these Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) weren't designed to dispense biological or chemical weapons.

The evidence gathered this summer matched the dissenting views of Air Force intelligence analysts who argued in a national intelligence assessment of Iraq before the war that the remotely piloted planes were unarmed reconnaissance drones.

In building its case for war, senior Bush administration officials had said Iraq's drones were intended to deliver unconventional weapons. The Secretary of State, Colin Powell, even raised the alarming prospect that the pilotless aircraft could sneak into the United States to carry out poisonous attacks on American cities.

The administration based its view on a Central Intelligence Agency finding that Iraq had renewed development of sophisticated UAVs capable of such attacks. The Pentagon's Defence Intelligence Agency also supported this conclusion.

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